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Log from 2007-05-07: --- Day changed Mon May 07 2007 00:06 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4 00:09 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron 00:09 <MaZuffeR> yay, we won! 00:09 <madmax|pt> :( 00:09 <MaZuffeR> ? 00:09 <i2020> you guys fielded a strong team 00:09 <i2020> qgtg bye 00:09 <madmax|pt> kind of boring... 00:09 <MaZuffeR> yep 00:10 <MaZuffeR> and i sucked :S 00:10 <i2020> your fault for creating the team you do... 00:10 <pavelo> I can't believe its over 00:10 -!- i2020 [n=3e1e95f9@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has left #armagetron [] 00:10 <MaZuffeR> i think i had 9 or 10 kills in total 00:11 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 00:11 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Client Quit] 00:11 * madmax|pt sucked too 00:11 <pavelo> I think ill pause the next few laddles 00:11 <madmax|pt> and I usually suck even more if the game is not being that exciting 00:12 <Lackadaisical> oh garisimo got shut out 00:12 <Lackadaisical> he msgd me over msn 00:13 -!- Legit [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC (EOF)"] 00:14 -!- pavelo [n=pavelo@unimatrix0.ubyt.sdjls.uniba.sk] has left #armagetron [] 00:15 <madmax|pt> and I thought we're going to be only 5 :D 00:15 <Lackadaisical> heh, wouldve been more fun maybe 00:16 <MaZuffeR> we would've been screwed without whatup 00:16 <madmax|pt> I bet so 00:16 <Lackadaisical> some of the best games i had with team ss were the ones we were outnumbered 00:16 <MaZuffeR> though he's annoying 00:16 <madmax|pt> about that, really annoying :/ 00:17 <Lackadaisical> did he got tk'd because he doublegrinded that last match? 00:17 <madmax|pt> Lackadaisical: Yes, on that world tron cup when we were 4/5 on 8 there were some great games 00:18 <madmax|pt> yes 00:22 <Lackadaisical> i think tui might be too strong on their side of the challengeboard 00:24 <madmax|pt> btw, you didn't experience that sudden fps drop (on that round only) after those glitches? 00:24 <Lackadaisical> no 00:24 <Lackadaisical> did you guys see that pavelo thing? where he was stuck? that was weird 00:24 <MaZuffeR> very weird 00:24 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 00:24 <MaZuffeR> hi durka 00:24 <Durka> hi MaZuffeR 00:25 <Durka> who was on your team ;) 00:25 <madmax|pt> after that "gold wall" in the middle of blue zone, and some more glitches like that, I had some big fps drop the following round 00:25 <Durka> lol 00:25 <Durka> madmax, mazuffer, psyko, whatup, lacks, newbie, eggcozy? 00:25 <madmax|pt> and, it wasn't anything on this computer afaik 00:26 <MaZuffeR> and pavelo 00:26 <Durka> ah, so i was rightr 00:26 <Durka> damn, good team 00:26 <Durka> we contended ;) 00:26 <MaZuffeR> we lagged ;) 00:26 <Durka> I lag in every ladle :'( 00:26 <Durka> t'sall good though 00:28 <Lackadaisical> you couldve warned us you wanted to start in the semis durka 00:28 <Lackadaisical> caused alot of irritation 00:29 <Durka> well 00:29 <Durka> we've never done that before 00:29 <Durka> 2020 always says 00:29 <Durka> if there are only 2 teams on one side 00:29 <Durka> both get byes so 00:29 <Durka> the winner team doesnt have to wait 45 minutes between semi's and finals 00:29 <Durka> i told tui we started at 1:15 (my time) 00:31 <Durka> seeing as I didn't know who we were playing 00:31 <Durka> I really had no one to tell... 00:31 <MaZuffeR> ... 00:32 <Durka> well 00:32 <Durka> i mean 00:32 <Durka> i knew psyko maz and max were playing 00:32 <Durka> but for example 00:32 <Durka> whatup said he wasnt playing but he was 00:32 <Durka> same with egg and pav 00:32 <DrJoeTron> man 00:32 <Durka> woman 00:33 <DrJoeTron> that closed beta kart racing game would be so much cooler if it didnt give me 10 fps while playing online 00:33 <DrJoeTron> the lag is terrible 00:33 <DrJoeTron> and that i didnt fuck up my kart name 00:34 <Durka> DrJoeTron: http://durkadurkaland.com/viewtopic.php?t=1232 00:34 <Durka> lol ^^ 00:34 <Durka> good news 00:34 <Durka> great* 00:34 <madmax|pt> 356 posts already heh? 00:35 <DrJoeTron> i thought it was him resigning from life 00:35 <DrJoeTron> yeah seriously 00:35 <DrJoeTron> give him a custom rank 00:35 <DrJoeTron> "Won't go away" 00:37 <Lackadaisical> btw, whats the reason for jonathans "brave man" rank 00:39 <Lackadaisical> oh well, gnight 00:39 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit ["Kidding!"] 00:41 <Durka> lol 00:42 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 00:43 <DrJoeTron> are jonathans avatars pictures he took with a cellphone camera? 00:45 -!- zman [n=manuel@p5087085a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:47 <MaZuffeR> quit 00:47 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:47 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has quit ["leaving"] 02:10 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 02:11 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:36 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Your_mom@pool-70-106-99-198.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron 02:55 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-75-57-65-76.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Bye."] 03:27 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-75-57-65-76.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron 03:27 <DrJoeTron> damn it 03:28 <DrJoeTron> hey Your_mom_arma 03:28 <DrJoeTron> you up for downloading a game? 04:12 <DrJoeTron> :( 04:14 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma its a kart racing game 04:17 <Your_mom_arma> pong 04:17 <DrJoeTron> yo 04:18 <Your_mom_arma> link, I'll take a glance 04:18 <DrJoeTron> korean mario kart game 04:18 <Your_mom_arma> haha 04:18 <DrJoeTron> http://kart.nexon.net/nx.asp?url=main/main 04:18 <DrJoeTron> the koreans are going crazy over this game 04:19 <DrJoeTron> its more popular than starcraft now 04:20 <DrJoeTron> it has windowd mode 04:20 <DrJoeTron> :p 04:22 <Your_mom_arma> do I have to create an account 04:23 <DrJoeTron> yeah 04:25 <Your_mom_arma> pass 04:26 <DrJoeTron> :L 05:17 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Your_mom@pool-70-106-99-198.pskn.east.verizon.net] has quit ["cya"] 05:47 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.newciv.org/whole/schoolteacher.txt 05:48 <Lucifer_arma> School is like 05:48 <Lucifer_arma> starting life with a 12-year jail sentence in which bad habits are the 05:48 <Lucifer_arma> only curriculum truly learned. 07:22 -!- MrBougo [i=MrBougo@198.30-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 07:43 -!- zman [n=manuel@p50871BD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 07:46 <Lucifer_arma> being the stay at home parent now, I'm considering homeschooling again, haha 07:58 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTro@adsl-75-57-65-76.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Bye."] 08:13 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 08:13 -!- Durka [n=Durka@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 08:20 -!- MrBougo [i=MrBougo@198.30-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 09:06 -!- arcsinx [n=inverse@pdpc/supporter/base/arctanx] has joined #armagetron 09:11 -!- arcsinx [n=inverse@pdpc/supporter/base/arctanx] has quit [Client Quit] 09:37 -!- zman [n=manuel@p50871BD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:32 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4 12:37 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4 12:41 -!- Loor [n=cb3bbd4c@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron 12:42 <Loor> Can anyone help me find the var directory? 12:42 -!- P4 is now known as P4|away 12:43 <Loor> Hehe, found it thanks! 12:43 -!- Loor [n=cb3bbd4c@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7216 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (6 files in 4 dirs): 13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: Added support for VSync setting changes via SDL (Note: this seems to be a bit 13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: buggy and does not work in Linux at all due to driver limitations, investigate) 13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: and the special motion blur mode where VSync is disabled and the current 13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: rendering is blended with the last frame. 13:40 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron 13:43 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 13:57 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:28 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-091-089-011-161.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #armagetron 16:19 -!- Cheeseman [n=Spudman@205.221.1.113] has joined #armagetron 16:21 -!- Cheeseman [n=Spudman@205.221.1.113] has left #armagetron [] 16:38 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7217 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (config/settings_visual.cfg src/render/rSysdep.cpp): Motion blurring now also affects the UI, which fixes the too bright fonts and HUD map. 16:51 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@189.234-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 16:51 <MrBougo> hello 17:00 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 17:00 <MrBougo> hello 17:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7218 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/render/rScreen.cpp: Tweaked VSync stuff: added linux-nvidia specific code, removed warnings when compiling server. 17:14 <epsy> hi 17:29 <MrBougo> byue 17:29 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@189.234-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [] 17:56 -!- P4|away [i=p4z@ebs214.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:13 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has joined #armagetron 18:20 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has quit ["leaving"] 18:26 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p50871BD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron 19:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7219 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/render/rSysdep.cpp: Whoops, reset glDepthMask back to normal after motion blurring. 19:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7220 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/values/vParser.ypp: Added fix for malloc conflict 19:28 -!- MrBougo [i=MrBougo@87.190-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron 19:29 <MrBougo> helo 19:32 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man 19:45 <Lucifer_arma> It's better to be slightly concerned about socialization than very concerned about socialism. 19:46 <Lucifer_arma> http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/humor/131.htm 19:46 <Lucifer_arma> top 20 reasons to homeschool :) 19:46 <Lucifer_arma> 3. Your honor student can actually read the bumper sticker that you have on your car. 19:49 <Lucifer_arma> http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/humor/181.htm 20:02 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7221 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/resource/proto/Z-Man/personal.cockpit.xml: personal leanified cockpit version, scrapped together from the default. 20:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh 20:07 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: does your new personal cockpit have a rubber gauge? 20:10 <Lucifer_arma> Even Popeye didn't eat his spinach until he absolutely had to. 20:11 <MrBougo> bye! 20:11 -!- MrBougo [i=MrBougo@87.190-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left #armagetron ["Save the internet radios! Act now! www.savenetradio.org"] 20:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.gomilpitas.com/humor/102.htm <--- I'm sure there can be a non-english equivalent of this game 20:50 -!- ToddAway [n=TheTruth@cpe-72-190-89-91.tx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:56 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has joined #armagetron 20:56 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_586.png 20:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh 20:57 <Lucifer_arma> Real Programs don't have rubber gauges! :) 21:09 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_teachings_of_jesus/on_anger_and_insults/mt05_21a.html 21:28 -!- ToddAway [n=TheTruth@cpe-72-190-89-91.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron 21:44 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 gfduxitgerhyuiovfg<hqiùHMhAU_IGHIUDRLGHUGYgyhugbysgfæÊ€æÊ»þýýûÎÃ] 21:52 -!- |Sticky| [n=Sticky@80-41-116-57.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #armagetron 22:06 <z-man> I basically wanted to see what is eating our performance, and the cockpit pretty much is it :) 22:07 <z-man> (took 75% of total rendering time in one profiling run, with a minimal scene of course) 22:08 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron 22:17 <wrtlprnft> x_X 22:17 <Lucifer_arma> um, eek? 22:18 <wrtlprnft> text widgets are highly inefficient, that's for sure 22:18 <wrtlprnft> (aw 22:18 <wrtlprnft> */aw 22:19 <wrtlprnft> z-man: any way to check how much of that is spent on actual opengl calls and how much is overhead by the cockpit system? 22:19 <z-man> That's pretty difficult, especially calculating the full cost of openGL calls 22:20 <z-man> since they are executed asynchroneously 22:20 <wrtlprnft> how much is the map eating? 22:20 <z-man> but gprof produces a nice list of how much each function uses, you could check there for your helper functions 22:21 <z-man> sorry, don't have the numbers here, I'm on Windows 22:21 <wrtlprnft> ah 22:21 <z-man> it was along the lines of half of the cockpit total, IIRC 22:21 <wrtlprnft> I don't think there's much to be done there, the rendering is complicated 22:21 <z-man> Yep 22:23 <wrtlprnft> I should probably implement caching the widths of table cols 22:23 <z-man> And the rest of the cockpit gets less important when the scene gets more complex, my test was just me vs one or two AIs, not complicated fights 22:23 <z-man> One true thing to optimize would be to render all the cockpit stuff into textures that only get updated occasionally, then just draw those textures 22:23 <z-man> that should be especially true for the console output 22:24 <wrtlprnft> huh? the console is not even in the cockpit 22:24 <z-man> I know, I was just thinking aloud :) 22:24 <wrtlprnft> and most things in the cockpit change all the time, like rubber or speed 22:36 <Lucifer_arma> clamp the framerate to match vsync and then change the default fps to show simulation framerate rather than rendering framerate :) 22:36 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:37 -!- spidey [n=spidey@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has joined #armagetron 22:37 <wrtlprnft> ok, caching the widths is practically impossible the way it 22:37 <wrtlprnft> 's currently set up 22:41 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:41 <z-man> no worries. 22:43 <wrtlprnft> my cockpit is probably a lot more resource eating 22:44 <wrtlprnft> but it does cast eSensors on every frame and has a lot more gauges (all of which i use, though) 22:49 <|Sticky|> #ping 22:49 <armabot> pong 22:49 <|Sticky|> #tea 22:49 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): POWERZ, Sativa, Sithy, ¦Ö¦$µbzero 22:49 <|Sticky|> hmm 22:50 <|Sticky|> cant seem to get on cafe 22:51 <wrtlprnft> ? 22:51 <|Sticky|> has it died? 22:51 <|Sticky|> #tea 22:51 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): POWERZ, Sativa, Sithy, ¦Ö¦$µbzero 22:52 <wrtlprnft> awll, people are playing 22:52 <wrtlprnft> [1] ~*HeLl/B/lAdE*~: I LOL'D 22:52 <wrtlprnft> last liine of chat 22:52 -!- CT|P4 [i=p4z@ecd113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #armagetron 22:52 <wrtlprnft> ah, looks like you got on there |Sticky| :) have fun 22:52 -!- CT|P4 is now known as P4 22:56 <|Sticky|> clearly my wlan sucks tonight 23:02 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@crlspr-69.65.76.186.myacc.net] has left #armagetron ["Up! Up! And Away!"] 23:03 <spidey> zomg 23:04 -!- xfrogg1 [n=mrxtheki@crlspr-69.65.76.186.myacc.net] has joined #armagetron 23:05 <xfrogg1> /leave 23:05 -!- xfrogg1 [n=mrxtheki@crlspr-69.65.76.186.myacc.net] has left #armagetron [] 23:05 -!- xfroggy [n=xfroggy@crlspr-69.65.76.186.myacc.net] has joined #armagetron 23:32 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetron 23:32 <ghableska> #weather 50266 23:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 76.5°F (4:35 PM CDT on May 07, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.02 in 982.6 hPa (Falling). 23:35 -!- kidd__ is now known as kidd 23:40 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-70-243-80-20.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:41 <kidd> #sty 23:41 <armabot> kidd: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: No online players. 23:56 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@HSI-KBW-091-089-011-161.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit ["*wusel*"] 23:57 -!- ghableska_ [n=ghablesk@12-216-182-238.client.mchsi.com] has joined #armagetronView entire month
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