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Log from 2007-05-07:
--- Day changed Mon May 07 2007
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00:09 <MaZuffeR> yay, we won!
00:09 <madmax|pt> :(
00:09 <MaZuffeR> ?
00:09 <i2020> you guys fielded a strong team
00:09 <i2020> qgtg bye
00:09 <madmax|pt> kind of boring...
00:09 <MaZuffeR> yep
00:10 <MaZuffeR> and i sucked :S
00:10 <i2020> your fault for creating the team you do...
00:10 <pavelo> I can't believe its over
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00:10 <MaZuffeR> i think i had 9 or 10 kills in total
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00:11  * madmax|pt sucked too
00:11 <pavelo> I think ill pause the next few laddles
00:11 <madmax|pt> and I usually suck even more if the game is not being that exciting
00:12 <Lackadaisical> oh garisimo got shut out
00:12 <Lackadaisical> he msgd me over msn
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00:15 <madmax|pt> and I thought we're going to be only 5 :D
00:15 <Lackadaisical> heh, wouldve been more fun maybe
00:16 <MaZuffeR> we would've been screwed without whatup
00:16 <madmax|pt> I bet so
00:16 <Lackadaisical> some of the best games i had with team ss were the ones we were outnumbered
00:16 <MaZuffeR> though he's annoying
00:16 <madmax|pt> about that, really annoying :/
00:17 <Lackadaisical> did he got tk'd because he doublegrinded that last match?
00:17 <madmax|pt> Lackadaisical: Yes, on that world tron cup when we were 4/5 on 8 there were some great games
00:18 <madmax|pt> yes
00:22 <Lackadaisical> i think tui might be  too strong on their side of the challengeboard
00:24 <madmax|pt> btw, you didn't experience that sudden fps drop (on that round only) after those glitches?
00:24 <Lackadaisical> no
00:24 <Lackadaisical> did you guys see that pavelo thing? where he was stuck? that was weird
00:24 <MaZuffeR> very weird
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00:24 <MaZuffeR> hi durka
00:24 <Durka> hi MaZuffeR 
00:25 <Durka> who was on your team ;)
00:25 <madmax|pt> after that "gold wall" in the middle of blue zone, and some more glitches like that, I had some big fps drop the following round
00:25 <Durka> lol
00:25 <Durka> madmax, mazuffer, psyko, whatup, lacks, newbie, eggcozy?
00:25 <madmax|pt> and, it wasn't anything on this computer afaik
00:26 <MaZuffeR> and pavelo
00:26 <Durka> ah, so i was rightr
00:26 <Durka> damn, good team
00:26 <Durka> we contended ;)
00:26 <MaZuffeR> we lagged ;)
00:26 <Durka> I lag in every ladle :'(
00:26 <Durka> t'sall good though
00:28 <Lackadaisical> you couldve warned us you wanted to start in the semis durka
00:28 <Lackadaisical> caused alot of irritation
00:29 <Durka> well
00:29 <Durka> we've never done that before
00:29 <Durka> 2020 always says
00:29 <Durka> if there are only 2 teams on one side
00:29 <Durka> both get byes so
00:29 <Durka> the winner team doesnt have to wait 45 minutes between semi's and finals
00:29 <Durka> i told tui we started at 1:15 (my time)
00:31 <Durka> seeing as I didn't know who we were playing
00:31 <Durka> I really had no one to tell...
00:31 <MaZuffeR> ...
00:32 <Durka> well
00:32 <Durka> i mean
00:32 <Durka> i knew psyko maz and max were playing
00:32 <Durka> but for example
00:32 <Durka> whatup said he wasnt playing but he was
00:32 <Durka> same with egg and pav
00:32 <DrJoeTron> man
00:32 <Durka> woman
00:33 <DrJoeTron> that closed beta kart racing game would be so much cooler if it didnt give me 10 fps while playing online
00:33 <DrJoeTron> the lag is terrible
00:33 <DrJoeTron> and that i didnt fuck up my kart name
00:34 <Durka> DrJoeTron: http://durkadurkaland.com/viewtopic.php?t=1232
00:34 <Durka> lol ^^
00:34 <Durka> good news
00:34 <Durka> great*
00:34 <madmax|pt> 356 posts already heh?
00:35 <DrJoeTron> i thought it was him resigning from life
00:35 <DrJoeTron> yeah seriously
00:35 <DrJoeTron> give him a custom rank
00:35 <DrJoeTron> "Won't go away"
00:37 <Lackadaisical> btw, whats the reason for jonathans "brave man" rank
00:39 <Lackadaisical> oh well, gnight
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00:41 <Durka> lol
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00:43 <DrJoeTron> are jonathans avatars pictures he took with a cellphone camera?
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03:27 <DrJoeTron> damn it
03:28 <DrJoeTron> hey Your_mom_arma 
03:28 <DrJoeTron> you up for downloading a game?
04:12 <DrJoeTron> :(
04:14 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma its a kart racing game
04:17 <Your_mom_arma> pong
04:17 <DrJoeTron> yo
04:18 <Your_mom_arma> link, I'll take a glance
04:18 <DrJoeTron> korean mario kart game
04:18 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:18 <DrJoeTron> http://kart.nexon.net/nx.asp?url=main/main 
04:18 <DrJoeTron> the koreans are going crazy over this game
04:19 <DrJoeTron> its more popular than starcraft now
04:20 <DrJoeTron> it has windowd mode
04:20 <DrJoeTron> :p
04:22 <Your_mom_arma> do I have to create an account
04:23 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:25 <Your_mom_arma> pass
04:26 <DrJoeTron> :L
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05:47 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.newciv.org/whole/schoolteacher.txt
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> School is like
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> starting life with a 12-year jail sentence in which bad habits are the
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> only curriculum truly learned.
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07:46 <Lucifer_arma> being the stay at home parent now, I'm considering homeschooling again, haha
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12:32 -!- P4 is now known as CT|P4
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12:42 <Loor> Can anyone help me find the var directory?
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12:43 <Loor> Hehe, found it thanks!
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13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7216 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: Added support for VSync setting changes via SDL (Note: this seems to be a bit
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: buggy and does not work in Linux at all due to driver limitations, investigate)
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: and the special motion blur mode where VSync is disabled and the current
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad: rendering is blended with the last frame.
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16:38 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7217 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (config/settings_visual.cfg src/render/rSysdep.cpp): Motion blurring now also affects the UI, which fixes the too bright fonts and HUD map.
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16:51 <MrBougo> hello
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17:00 <MrBougo> hello
17:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7218 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/render/rScreen.cpp: Tweaked VSync stuff: added linux-nvidia specific code, removed warnings when compiling server.
17:14 <epsy> hi
17:29 <MrBougo> byue
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19:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7219 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/render/rSysdep.cpp: Whoops, reset glDepthMask back to normal after motion blurring.
19:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7220 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/values/vParser.ypp: Added fix for malloc conflict
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19:29 <MrBougo> helo
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19:45 <Lucifer_arma> It's better to be slightly concerned about socialization  than very concerned about socialism.
19:46 <Lucifer_arma> http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/humor/131.htm
19:46 <Lucifer_arma> top 20 reasons to homeschool :)
19:46 <Lucifer_arma> 3. Your honor student can actually read the bumper sticker that you have on your car.
19:49 <Lucifer_arma> http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/humor/181.htm
20:02 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7221 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/resource/proto/Z-Man/personal.cockpit.xml: personal leanified cockpit version, scrapped together from the default.
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> z-man: does your new personal cockpit have a rubber gauge?
20:10 <Lucifer_arma> Even Popeye  didn't eat his spinach  until he absolutely had to.
20:11 <MrBougo> bye!
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20:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.gomilpitas.com/humor/102.htm  <--- I'm sure there can be a non-english equivalent of this game
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20:56 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/arma/screenshot_586.png
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> Real Programs don't have rubber gauges!  :)
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_teachings_of_jesus/on_anger_and_insults/mt05_21a.html
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22:06 <z-man> I basically wanted to see what is eating our performance, and the cockpit pretty much is it :)
22:07 <z-man> (took 75% of total rendering time in one profiling run, with a minimal scene of course)
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22:17 <wrtlprnft> x_X
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> um, eek?
22:18 <wrtlprnft> text widgets are highly inefficient, that's for sure
22:18 <wrtlprnft> (aw
22:18 <wrtlprnft> */aw
22:19 <wrtlprnft> z-man: any way to check how much of that is spent on actual opengl calls and how much is overhead by the cockpit system?
22:19 <z-man> That's pretty difficult, especially calculating the full cost of openGL calls
22:20 <z-man> since they are executed asynchroneously
22:20 <wrtlprnft> how much is the map eating?
22:20 <z-man> but gprof produces a nice list of how much each function uses, you could check there for your helper functions
22:21 <z-man> sorry, don't have the numbers here, I'm on Windows
22:21 <wrtlprnft> ah
22:21 <z-man> it was along the lines of half of the cockpit total, IIRC
22:21 <wrtlprnft> I don't think there's much to be done there, the rendering is complicated
22:21 <z-man> Yep
22:23 <wrtlprnft> I should probably implement caching the widths of table cols
22:23 <z-man> And the rest of the cockpit gets less important when the scene gets more complex, my test was just me vs one or two AIs, not complicated fights
22:23 <z-man> One true thing to optimize would be to render all the cockpit stuff into textures that only get updated occasionally, then just draw those textures
22:23 <z-man> that should be especially true for the console output
22:24 <wrtlprnft> huh? the console is not even in the cockpit
22:24 <z-man> I know, I was just thinking aloud :)
22:24 <wrtlprnft> and most things in the cockpit change all the time, like rubber or speed
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> clamp the framerate to match vsync and then change the default fps to show simulation framerate rather than rendering framerate :)
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22:37 <wrtlprnft> ok, caching the widths is practically impossible the way it
22:37 <wrtlprnft> 's currently set up
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22:41 <z-man> no worries.
22:43 <wrtlprnft> my cockpit is probably a lot more resource eating
22:44 <wrtlprnft> but it does cast eSensors on every frame and has a lot more gauges (all of which i use, though)
22:49 <|Sticky|> #ping
22:49 <armabot> pong
22:49 <|Sticky|> #tea
22:49 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): POWERZ, Sativa, Sithy, ¦Ö¦$µbzero
22:49 <|Sticky|> hmm
22:50 <|Sticky|> cant seem to get on cafe
22:51 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:51 <|Sticky|> has it died?
22:51 <|Sticky|> #tea
22:51 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): POWERZ, Sativa, Sithy, ¦Ö¦$µbzero
22:52 <wrtlprnft> awll, people are playing
22:52 <wrtlprnft> [1] ~*HeLl/B/lAdE*~: I LOL'D
22:52 <wrtlprnft> last liine of chat
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22:52 <wrtlprnft> ah, looks like you got on there |Sticky| :) have fun
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22:56 <|Sticky|> clearly my wlan sucks tonight
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23:03 <spidey> zomg
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23:05 <xfrogg1> /leave
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23:32 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 76.5°F (4:35 PM CDT on May 07, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.02 in 982.6 hPa (Falling). 
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23:41 <kidd> #sty
23:41 <armabot> kidd: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: No online players.
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