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Log from 2007-02-05:
--- Day changed Mon Feb 05 2007
00:01 <_Sticky_> wrtlprnft: still here??
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00:10 <wrtlprnft> yeah
00:11 <_Sticky_> err looks like i may have sorted it now
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00:25 <spidey> #g 256*256*256
00:25 <armabot> spidey: 256 * 256 * 256 = 16,777,216
00:26 <spidey> rofl!!
00:26 <spidey> wrtlprnft,
00:26 <spidey> micro banned me from mbc
00:26 <spidey> just after ota was on fa site >.<, and i've did nothing wrong to be banned
00:27 * spidey changes ip
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00:32 <spidey_> ... i think i just broke my router o.O
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00:35 <spidey_> ahah
00:35 <spidey_> that's no accident
00:35 <spidey_> micro banned every range i've ever used on mbc....>.<
00:45 <wrtlprnft> o_O
00:45 <wrtlprnft> good idea.
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01:08 <spidey_> wrtlprnft, maybe, but my dsl has just as many ranges
01:08 * spidey_ points to mbc :D
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02:11 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:11 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is -1.8°F (7:07 PM CST on February 04, 2007). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -14.8°F. Windchill: -13.0°F. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa.
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03:07 <ghableska> #armaservers
03:08 <armabot> ghableska: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map & Server Changes (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || |FA| Clan Server (5 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (5 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (5 players) || (1 more message)
03:08 <ghableska> #more
03:08 <armabot> ghableska: LoBo'S ~|SrT< clan server (4 players) || {$C} Clan [ Supernova Clan ] (4 players) || Wild West =Sumo= (3 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Dogfight (3 players) || The Lobster Cage (1 players) || The Dip Bowl - (Master's Tournament: Only TSC Members Allowed!) (1 players)
03:21 <ghableska> #weather Hell
03:24 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in M36 & Pettysville rd, Pinckney, Michigan is -1.1°F (9:14 PM EST on February 04, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -11.2°F. Windchill: -14.8°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa. Wind Chill Advisory in effect until around noon EST Monday...
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04:07 <DrJoeTron> Rex Grossmen Sucks balls
04:08 <ghableska> who?
04:08 <DrJoeTron> Bears quarter back
04:08 <ghableska> is it over?
04:12 <DrJoeTron> yeah :/
04:12 <DrJoeTron> beas lose
04:12 <ghableska> by a lot?
04:12 <DrJoeTron> at the end
04:12 <ghableska> oh
04:12 <DrJoeTron> grossmen throws 2 touch downs to the colts
04:12 <ghableska> :o
04:12 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:13 <ghableska> any wardrobe malfunctions?
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04:47 <DrJoeTron> hey Your_mom_arma, did you know that rex grossmen sucks? :)
04:47 <DrJoeTron> nah there wasnt
04:47 <DrJoeTron> there was a half time malfunction though
04:47 <DrJoeTron> because they let prince on stage
04:48 <ghableska> heh
04:48 <ghableska> #night
04:48 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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04:48 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:49 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails
04:49 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
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04:49 <DrJoeTron> #severdetails lobster
04:49 <DrJoeTron> fuck
04:49 <Durka> #hello
04:49 <Durka> hi joe
04:49 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Exercise caution in your daily affairs.
04:50 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails lobster
04:50 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: Players (4/7): Dr Joe Tron, eneska, Hitler, Lighting
04:50 <DrJoeTron> hi
04:50 <Durka> #armaservers
04:50 <armabot> Durka: Wild West =Capture The Flag= (9 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || LoBo'S ~|SrT< clan server (7 players) || The Lobster Cage (6 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (5 players) || Norm's Place (4 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || MicroBusCity.com (2 players) || Sigma Clan Server (1 players) || Big Bud Den (1 players) || Super Duck Hyphy N a n o (1 more message)
04:51 <DrJoeTron> fuck my server
04:52 <DrJoeTron> it's fucking cold
04:52 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60026
04:52 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Northbrook, IL is -3.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Wind: NW at 9 mph (14 km/h).
04:52 <DrJoeTron> woops
04:52 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60016
04:52 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is -3.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Wind: W at 13 mph (21 km/h).
04:52 <DrJoeTron> :D
04:53 <Durka> not cold here
04:53 <Durka> #weather 90049
04:54 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Santa Monica, California is 60.8°F (7:51 PM PST on February 04, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa.
04:55 <Durka> :)
05:39 <Durka> luke-jr: ping
05:39 <Durka> luke-jr_work: ping
05:40 <Durka> luke-jr_clone: ping
05:40 <Durka> luke-jr_slave: ping
05:40 <Durka> luke-jr_mom: ping
05:40 <Durka> luke-sr: ping
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05:40 <Durka> luke-sr_work: ping
05:40 <Durka> luke-sr_clone: ping
05:40 <rickyross> hey
05:40 <rickyross> luke
05:40 <Durka> luke-sr_slave: ping
05:40 <rickyross> why does it cost 40 bucks more
05:40 <rickyross> your site advertises it as 16 bucks per server
05:41 <Durka> luke-sr_mom: ping
05:41 <rickyross> :)
05:42 <rickyross> LUKE"SMOM-PING
05:42 <rickyross> lawl
05:42 <rickyross> luke-jr
05:42 <Durka> #last --from luke-jr
05:42 <armabot> Durka: [20:42:57] <luke-jr> lamer
05:42 <Durka> #time
05:42 <armabot> Durka: 05:51 AM, February 05, 2007
05:42 <Durka> #last --from luke-jr --nolimit
05:42 <armabot> Durka: [20:42:57] <luke-jr> lamer, [20:42:17] <luke-jr> foo, [20:42:16] <luke-jr> /j #arma-ladle, [20:39:34] <luke-jr> cuz ur lame, [20:39:03] <luke-jr> wtf is subz, [20:38:13] <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I didn't ask you ! :p, [20:36:55] <luke-jr> plz, [20:36:54] <luke-jr> ping -c 4 lightfoot-ca.dashjr.org, [20:36:22] <luke-jr> Durka: Durka Durka, [20:17:01] <luke-jr> SPAWN_WRAP 0 sounds dumb :), (7 more messages)
05:43 <Durka> #more
05:43 <armabot> Durka: [20:16:42] <luke-jr> o, [20:16:16] <luke-jr> #armaconfig SPAWN_WRAP, [20:08:24] <luke-jr> :p, [20:02:33] <luke-jr> 3D rendering is part of cockpit, [20:01:24] <luke-jr> viewport = cockpit container :p, [20:01:13] <luke-jr> not with the new design I proposed ! ;P, [20:00:15] <luke-jr> hm?, [19:58:05] <luke-jr> or "viewport 1 is the entirety of monitor 1, expanding across the width of monitor (6 more messages)
05:43 <Durka> #last --from luke-jr_work --nolimit
05:43 <armabot> Durka: [19:39:30] <luke-jr_work> ya and [19:38:29] <luke-jr_work> #realchatlogs
05:43 <rickyross> #more
05:43 <armabot> rickyross: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
05:43 <rickyross> #more
05:43 <armabot> rickyross: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
05:43 <rickyross> i want more
05:43 <rickyross> more mre omremore
05:43 <Durka> ok ricky look at this
05:43 <rickyross> lawl
05:43 <Durka> #more
05:43 <armabot> Durka: 2; draw overflow regions", [19:57:06] <luke-jr> replace it with something that understands "viewport 1 is this part of monitor 1; viewport 2 is this other part of monitor 1; viewport 3 is top half of monitor 2; 4 is bottom half; view 1 shows cockpit X for player 1; 2, ck Y for 1; 3, ck X for 2; 4, ck Y for 2", [19:55:32] <luke-jr> we need to revamp the whole splitscreen code, [19:55:23] (5 more messages)
05:43 <Durka> hmmm wtl
05:44 <Durka> #realchatlogs
05:44 <armabot> Durka: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
05:45 <rickyross> durka
05:45 <rickyross> did u tell legit what i told u to say
05:45 <Durka> ya lol
05:53 <Durka> stay here rickyross
05:53 <Durka> wait till luke gets his lazzy ass over here :P
05:54 <Durka> #kill rickyross
05:54 <armabot> rickyross will die on Tue Oct 6 10:15:27 1981.
06:05 <rickyross> hi
06:05 <rickyross> i'm waitnig for luke to "get his lazzy ass over here"
06:10 <rickyross> #more
06:10 <rickyross> nub
06:10 <rickyross> cakes
06:10 <armabot> rickyross: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
06:10 <rickyross> #more nub cakes
06:10 <armabot> rickyross: Error: I haven't seen nub.
06:10 <rickyross> durka will die on #randomdate
06:11 <rickyross> #say hi
06:11 <Durka> its $randomDate
06:11 <rickyross> ok stfu pl
06:11 <rickyross> lawlwl
06:11 <Durka> its $echo
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06:14 <mkzelda> Durka: where u is
06:15 <Durka> ww fort
06:15 <Durka> but lets go to ww sumo
06:15 <Durka> ww sumo ftw!
06:15 <mkzelda> ive been there
06:15 <Durka> lol
06:30 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma ok I'm back in
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06:44 <epsy> monin'
06:44 <epsy> hrhr
06:44 <epsy> *mornin'
06:54 <epsy> #morning
06:54 <armabot> Good Morning epsy Random Fortune: ... Linux und seine Programme sind damit || so etwas wie ein real existierender Sozialismus der besseren Art... || -- Christian Seel in der Berliner Morgenpost v. 9.3.1997
06:57 <Durka> hi epsy
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06:59 <Your_mom_arma> hmmm....
06:59 <Your_mom_arma> lobster cage isnt on my master server list
07:02 <Your_mom_arma> #m Durka truthfully, im not sure.
07:02 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: The operation succeeded.
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07:41 <epsy> z-man-asleep, morning,
07:41 <epsy> on the forums, in your profile, "Location: Cologne"
07:42 <epsy> you also speak french?
07:55 <epsy> k you're still sleeping hrhr
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08:20 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
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08:21 <epsy> k i see
08:22 <wrtlprnft> how can z-man be z-man-asleep and z-man-work at the same time? :D
08:27 <spidey__> z-man-work = /away
08:27 <spidey__> :P
08:30 <epsy> hmm...
08:31 <epsy> Hold the flag as more as possible so your team earn points
08:31 <epsy> is that a good description for the htf gameplay?
08:34 <wrtlprnft> i suggest you use “as long as possible” or “as much as possible”
08:34 <wrtlprnft> as more as possible is … weird …
08:35 * epsy slaps xchat
08:35 <wrtlprnft> ?
08:35 <epsy> i cant see correctly the « »
08:36 <epsy> Hold the flag as munch as possible...to earn points...
08:36 <epsy> hmm
08:36 <spidey__> it's not xchat,it's the char encoding :P
08:36 <wrtlprnft> well, they're “english quotes”, not «french quotes» or „german quotes“
08:37 <epsy> that's missing the team
08:37 <epsy> spidey__, yeah but it's xchat that cant handle correctly the encoding...
08:37 <spidey__> nope
08:37 <spidey__> press ctrl+s
08:37 <spidey__> select "freenode" then check edit mode
08:38 <spidey__> character set: put it to UTF-8 t
08:38 <spidey__> then restart it
08:38 <spidey__> check autoconnect at startup, if you want
08:39 <epsy> 'system default' is supposed to be utf-8 by me..
08:39 <epsy> hmm
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08:40 <epsy> hmm
08:41 <wrtlprnft> mmh
08:42 <epsy> i tceles emos slennahc ot noij yllamotua...
08:42 <epsy> and xchat joins only the first
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08:44 <epsy_> err
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08:44 <spidey__> yay for pos routers >.<
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08:57 <epsy> k i also made a help_message :)
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09:03 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7109 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
09:03 <armabot> armagetronad: cCockpit isn't a singleton anymore, yay!
09:03 <armabot> armagetronad: There's now one cockpit for the rootwindow, one cockpit for every ePlayer that has a viewport, and one cockpit for all gCycles. This should make gauges with "memory" possible, like graph gauges.
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15:00 <armabot> You rock my world!
16:19 <[NP]Tangent> how sweet.
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16:38 <madmax|pt> hello
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16:42 <madmax|pt> guru3: graphire 4 is nice :D
16:42 <guru3> ill stick with my intuous
16:42 <guru3> -u
16:44 <luke-jr_work> ...
16:55 <guru3> OS: Linux 2.6.11-gentoo-r4/i686 - CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Xeon(TM) (2399.979 MHz) - Processes: 329 - Uptime: 96d 7h 48m - Load Average: 2.37 - Memory Usage: 643.04MB/2025.51MB (31.75%)
16:55 <guru3> sorry had to check how much ram i had
16:57 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:22 <luke-jr_work> btw, I have a new demo server up :p
17:22 <luke-jr_work> #serverinfo open ad
17:22 <armabot> luke-jr_work: Open Admin (This could be your server!): No online players.
17:25 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v open admin
17:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Open Admin (This could be your server!) (69.61.78.150:4534) running 0.3.0_alpha6514 unix dedicated, Description: “Cheap Armagetron hosting on a real server: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org“, No online players.
17:38 <luke-jr_work> O.o
17:50 <z-man-work> MWAHAHA! I hijacked it :)
17:50 <z-man-work> /admin ADMIN_PASS <secret>
17:51 <wrtlprnft> hehe
17:51 <wrtlprnft> add DEDICATED_IDLE 0 to that
17:51 <z-man-work> good idea
17:58 <luke-jr_work> :o
17:59 <luke-jr_work> so much for that :D
17:59 <z-man-work> hey!
17:59 <luke-jr_work> lol
17:59 <luke-jr_work> now, leave DEDICATED_IDLE alone :p
17:59 <epsy> lol
17:59 <z-man-work> I didn't touch it :)
18:00 <z-man-work> you may want to put some stuff in everytime.cfg.
18:00 <luke-jr_work> good idea
18:00 <z-man-work> Then I'll reduce the settings so much that each round lasts 10^32 years and set the AIs to battle it out :)
18:01 <luke-jr_work> -.-
18:02 <epsy> luke-jr_work, ln -s settings_custom.cfg everytime.cfg
18:02 <epsy> lol
18:02 <epsy> this is what i do on my servers
18:02 <luke-jr_work> there is no settings_custom :p
18:03 <epsy> or whatever it's called
18:03 <luke-jr_work> echo 'include server_info.cfg' >everytime.cfg
18:03 <epsy> lol
18:03 * epsy forgots about using server_info.cfg
18:03 <luke-jr_work> :p
18:05 <z-man-work> luke-jr_work: I just tested it. You can't DOS a server with my last descritpion. It will restart once the humans have left.
18:06 <wrtlprnft> let me make a HUGE map and DOS the server with it :)
18:07 <z-man-work> Set up a server that hosts the map, but reallly slowly.
18:07 <z-man-work> and make the map infinite :)
18:08 <epsy> then put a fortress on
18:08 <wrtlprnft> infinite would be an idea
18:08 <epsy> and set fortress_max_per_team -1
18:08 <epsy> hrhr
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18:08 <z-man-work> why? Downloading it would take a loooong time. You don't have to worry about the parser :)
18:09 <epsy> jukejr got hijacked one more time
18:09 <epsy> lol
18:09 <epsy> z-man-work, there is a res repo here hehe
18:09 <epsy> wait i open vnc
18:10 <wrtlprnft> not infinite, but dd if=/dev/urandom of=~/public_html/map.xml will do
18:10 <wrtlprnft> just have it run for a couple of 100 MiB
18:11 <z-man-work> Well, if you make the webserver load directly from /dev/random, you'll also clog his HD :)
18:11 <z-man-work> and your network, but that's worth it.
18:11 * wrtlprnft wonders if ln -s /dev/urandom ~/public_html/map.xml would work
18:12 <wrtlprnft> or maybe hardlink it?
18:12 <wrtlprnft> can you hardlink device files?
18:12 <epsy> conceptually not
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18:30 <wrtlprnft> [3] Z-Man: darn, SILENCE_ALL does not work serverside :(
18:30 <wrtlprnft> lol
18:31 <wrtlprnft> but SPAM_MAXLEN 0 does
18:31 <luke-jr|work> O.o?
18:31 * luke-jr|work ponders removing a few more config options from that server
18:36 <wrtlprnft> apparently /dev/urandom isn't dual core optimized :s
18:36 <z-man-work> SPAM_MAXLEN 0 also conveniently disables the remote admin access :)
18:37 <wrtlprnft> heh
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18:42 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r7110 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/cockpit/cCockpit.cpp: removed debug messages (again)
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20:15 <kamp> hey
20:15 <kamp> knock knock
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21:19 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
21:19 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 60.1°F (2:19 PM CST on February 05, 2007). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa.
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22:12 <|Sticky|> #serverinfo cafe
22:12 <armabot> |Sticky|: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
22:12 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails fortress cafe
22:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fortress cafe” at the moment, sorry.
22:12 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails fortress c
22:12 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fortress c” at the moment, sorry.
22:12 <Vanhayes> lame
22:12 <|Sticky|> thought so
22:12 <|Sticky|> think its gone down
22:13 <Vanhayes> nah, I was in it
22:13 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails ess caf
22:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): CT~Voodoo, Ðúrkå ¦Ö¦$µbze, Legionnaire, Player 1, ~*SP*~Sasha, ~*SP*~wHaTuP
22:13 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:13 <Vanhayes> they are all gone now tho
22:13 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails ess caf
22:13 <|Sticky|> hmm everyone got kicked out about 2 minago
22:13 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
22:13 <Vanhayes> everyone went to sumo too
22:14 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails sumo
22:14 <armabot> Vanhayes: °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (12/12): Bjalne, CT|play, CT~Voodoo, mescalin, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, Xell -*SP*-, |TEÇHNØ,-F®DÅJ|, ~*SP*~wHaTuP, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ¦Ö¦FoFo, ¦×¥ Infamous, °°qain
22:14 <wrtlprnft> i don't know what's the cause for this
22:14 <|Sticky|> must have been very good timing since about 4 quit symultaniously
22:15 <Vanhayes> ya, quite a few said they were goin to sumo, and within 5 minutes no one was left in
22:15 <wrtlprnft> that happens once in a while
22:15 <|Sticky|> duno cos i got knocked off without intending to
22:16 <Vanhayes> ya, ive seen that happen too, where over half the players got kicked off
22:18 <wrtlprnft> no clue why
22:18 <luke-jr|work> that's why you should host w/ me! :D
22:18 <luke-jr|work> :)
22:18 <|Sticky|> which servers do you host??
22:19 <wrtlprnft> the ones that lag
22:19 <luke-jr|work> bs
22:19 <luke-jr|work> #serverdetails fa
22:19 <armabot> luke-jr|work: [ninja factory] @ LBX: No online players.
22:19 <luke-jr|work> #serverdetails 2020
22:19 <armabot> luke-jr|work: 2020 team challenge: No online players.
22:19 <luke-jr|work> #serverdetails "FA Clan"
22:19 <armabot> luke-jr|work: [ninja factory] @ LBX: No online players.
22:19 <Vanhayes> the ones no one goes to i guess
22:19 <luke-jr|work> um
22:19 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: what's w/ the matching?
22:19 <|Sticky|> 2020's is ok
22:19 <luke-jr|work> #serverdetails Hyphy
22:19 <armabot> luke-jr|work: Super Duck Hyphy N a n o Fortress!!: No online players.
22:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr|work: don't use quotes
22:20 <luke-jr|work> #serverdetails FA clan
22:20 <armabot> luke-jr|work: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fa clan” at the moment, sorry.
22:20 <luke-jr|work> lame
22:20 <luke-jr|work> poj
22:20 <luke-jr|work> anyway, FA Clan, 2020, and Hyphy thing
22:20 <Vanhayes> is ricky ross hyphy?
22:21 <Vanhayes> that guy who always comes in here yells your name and leaves less than 5 minutes later
22:21 <luke-jr|work> dunno
22:21 <luke-jr|work> he owns it
22:21 <luke-jr|work> 2020's is Germany; FA and Hyphy are California
22:23 <luke-jr|work> Hyphy used to be Georgia
22:23 <|Sticky|> peer to peer games would sort of change the central games thing. maby not a good idea
22:24 <luke-jr|work> O.o
22:24 <luke-jr|work> wtf?
22:25 <|Sticky|> ?
22:25 <DrJoeTron> hyphy is some little rich kid
22:25 <DrJoeTron> I take that back
22:25 <madmax|pt> are there any good alternatives to inkscape?
22:26 <DrJoeTron> he's a wannabe- rich kid
22:26 <wrtlprnft> what's wrong with inkscape?
22:26 <|Sticky|> whats inkscape
22:26 <DrJoeTron> he totes his giant ass fancy computers
22:26 <wrtlprnft> obviously there would be sodipodi
22:26 <DrJoeTron> yet he plays this game :V
22:26 <madmax|pt> i have to run it in x11 on os x
22:26 <luke-jr|work> DrJoeTron: ...
22:26 <wrtlprnft> umm, freehand?
22:26 <madmax|pt> free/open :P
22:26 <wrtlprnft> i don't think so
22:27 <madmax|pt> I guess i'll have to "buy" illustrator :X
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22:27 <|Sticky|> heh hope you ave a few $$$$$$ spare
22:27 <madmax|pt> or maybe i should ask a license from hyphy
22:28 <luke-jr|work> lol
22:28 <luke-jr|work> just run X :p
22:29 <|Sticky|> dosent inkscape work on the mac??
22:29 <madmax|pt> it does, but on X11
22:29 <madmax|pt> not a big problem
22:29 <|Sticky|> whats wrong with x11
22:29 <luke-jr|work> X11 pwns
22:29 <[dlh]> um, X11 sucks.
22:29 <wrtlprnft> inkscape pwns
22:30 <|Sticky|> you fancy mac people with your GUI's...user friendlyness is for wimps
22:30 <madmax|pt> lol
22:30 <luke-jr|work> X11 pwns Aqua or Cocoa or whatever
22:30 <madmax|pt> heh don't start
22:30 <luke-jr|work> Apple's stupid
22:30 <|Sticky|> not realy x11 aint great
22:31 <|Sticky|> x11 + xgl however
22:31 <luke-jr|work> they abandoned PPC for x86
22:31 <luke-jr|work> um
22:31 <luke-jr|work> Xgl is obsolete
22:31 <|Sticky|> beryl then
22:31 <luke-jr|work> X.org 7.1 includes AIGLX
22:32 <|Sticky|> altho beryl dosent like my gfx card that much
22:32 <luke-jr|work> well maybe you shoulda got a better gfx card
22:32 <luke-jr|work> like a Radeon X850!
22:32 <luke-jr|work> or Intel 9xx
22:33 <wrtlprnft> umm, at least kwin's aiglx features suck
22:33 <luke-jr|work> kwin has aiglx features?
22:33 <|Sticky|> i have both those
22:33 <wrtlprnft> the shadows are rectangular but my window decorations are not
22:33 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: those are the best you can get...
22:33 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: shadows don't use AIGLX
22:33 <|Sticky|> the x850 on my desktop and intel on laptop
22:33 <luke-jr|work> usually
22:33 <luke-jr|work> shadows are Composite
22:34 <wrtlprnft> whatever
22:34 <luke-jr|work> I don't think KWin uses AIGLX at all
22:34 <luke-jr|work> you need Beryl+Aquamarine for that
22:34 <wrtlprnft> it can do shadows and transparent windows, anyways
22:34 * luke-jr|work bets AIGLX shadows would be correct
22:34 <|Sticky|> x850 best you can get??? its about 3 years old
22:35 <luke-jr|work> AIGLX isn't "shadows and transparent windows"
22:35 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: best you can get for *nix
22:35 <madmax|pt> xgl was good. it broke the "os x has too much eye candy" argument.
22:35 <luke-jr|work> madmax|pt: AIGLX obsoletes Xgl
22:35 <madmax|pt> "...was..."
22:35 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: AIGLX is for OpenGL manipulations on the desktop environment
22:35 <|Sticky|> so how does beryl fit in with aiglx then??
22:37 <luke-jr|work> AIGLX is just an API; Beryl controls it
22:37 <luke-jr|work> Beryl plugins define actual effects
22:37 <|Sticky|> ahh
22:38 <|Sticky|> it is all still very buggy tho
22:38 <luke-jr|work> not really
22:38 <luke-jr|work> Aquamarine is the only part still very buggy
22:39 <|Sticky|> i certainly get a number of crashes and ive heard similar from others currently using it
22:39 <luke-jr|work> well, maybe because you're still using Xgl or something
22:39 <luke-jr|work> and old Beryl versions
22:39 <|Sticky|> heh
22:40 <luke-jr|work> hopefully not ATi's crap drivers too >_<
22:40 <|Sticky|> whatever is the latest in the ubuntu repos
22:40 <|Sticky|> yeah ati have some issues when it comes to linux
22:40 <|Sticky|> but all the gfx companies do
22:41 <|Sticky|> except intel now i hear
22:41 <wrtlprnft> intel has nice oss drivers
22:43 <|Sticky|> lol
22:43 <|Sticky|> as i speak i cant drag a window as beryl just has it stretch to the edge of the screen
22:44 <luke-jr|work> don't use ATi's trash and you should be fine :)
22:44 <luke-jr|work> trash=drivers
22:44 <|Sticky|> it appears to be because it will allow you to try to drag windows that are maximised
22:44 <|Sticky|> so it just contorts them
22:45 <luke-jr|work> ....
22:45 <|Sticky|> actualy thats kina useful for looking behind a maximised window
22:51 <luke-jr|work> yes
22:53 <madmax|pt> what are the chances of a usb modem catching fire with a 8 mbps connection?
22:54 <|Sticky|> depends if you set it on fire
22:54 <madmax|pt> So, i'm safe i guess.
22:54 <luke-jr|work> um
22:54 <luke-jr|work> what kind of modem?
22:54 <luke-jr|work> and why USB?
22:55 <madmax|pt> because my ISP likes to give out cheap modems i guess
22:55 <|Sticky|> ive herd of hubs/switches melting but thats with gbits of traffic
22:55 <madmax|pt> btw, there was a "new" Sticky around the other day
22:55 <luke-jr|work> you should complain
22:55 <wrtlprnft> how would .5A set anything on fire?
22:55 <|Sticky|> ohh
22:55 <luke-jr|work> USB sucks
22:55 <luke-jr|work> for bidirectional data transfer anyhow
22:56 <|Sticky|> usb is one of the most fantastic protocols to come around for ages
22:56 <luke-jr|work> ROFL
22:56 <luke-jr|work> what do you know of the USB protocol?
22:56 <luke-jr|work> I know it's request-based
22:56 <luke-jr|work> which alone makes it unsuitable for bidirectional data transfer
22:56 <|Sticky|> hay i use a crap load of specialist equipment that just dont need drivers down to the usb interface
22:57 <luke-jr|work> so?
22:57 <luke-jr|work> you need drivers
22:57 <luke-jr|work> just that they happen to have standardized drivers
22:57 <|Sticky|> the only thing i have had problems with is high speed machine vision cameras since...like you say, usb is slow
22:57 <luke-jr|work> nothing USB specific about that concept
22:57 <luke-jr|work> USB isn't slow
22:57 <|Sticky|> yeah it is
22:57 <luke-jr|work> it just slows down the CPU when it's used for the wrong stuff
22:58 <luke-jr|work> where "wrong stuff" is a very wide variety of common tasks, due to the poor design
22:58 <|Sticky|> when used for cameras compaired to stuff like 1394 its slow
22:58 <|Sticky|> dispite usb claiming higher throughput
22:58 <luke-jr|work> USB can do 400 mbps
23:00 <|Sticky|> i seem to remember the problem with usb is that it cant stream data like firewire can but i may be wrong there
23:01 <|Sticky|> think usb has to ack
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23:04 <|Sticky|> heh yeah looking at some firewire vs usb speed test and firewire coming up 30-70% faster dispite it is officialy 80mbps slower
23:04 <wrtlprnft> why can't we just stick to the good old parallel ports?
23:05 <|Sticky|> anyway who is this other sticky???
23:05 <wrtlprnft> #seen sticky
23:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sticky was last seen in #armagetron 4 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <Sticky> #time
23:05 <wrtlprnft> #seen *sticky*
23:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: *sticky* could be |Sticky| (28 seconds ago), _Sticky_ (22 hours, 53 minutes, and 41 seconds ago), Sticky (4 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 27 seconds ago), Stickyer (4 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 28 minutes, and 44 seconds ago), or [TM]Sticky (9 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 44 seconds ago)
23:06 <|Sticky|> heh parallel ports are great...you can control the individual pin levels...very useful
23:06 <madmax|pt> a new player I think
23:06 <|Sticky|> #lastseen Sticky
23:06 <armabot> |Sticky|: ¦Ö¦Sticky has last been seen on Fortress Café 57 minutes ago.
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23:06 <madmax|pt> it was yesterday or something
23:06 <|Sticky|> anyway to change that match??
23:07 <madmax|pt> hm, yeah, can it match exactly?
23:07 <wrtlprnft> not right now, no
23:08 <|Sticky|> cant #more that??
23:08 <|Sticky|> #more
23:08 <armabot> |Sticky|: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
23:08 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: USB can't do anything without the host OKing it
23:08 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: the host needs to poll devices
23:08 <madmax|pt> heh, nevermind, I told him there was a Sticky already :P maybe he'll peacefully change his name
23:08 <luke-jr|work> eg, your CPU is left saying "Got anything for me?" every few ms
23:09 <|Sticky|> yes i will admit the host client architecture is a pain
23:09 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen sticky
23:09 <|Sticky|> i am looking for some development electronics boards atm and finding ones with host on is a bitch
23:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ¦Ö¦Sticky has last been seen on Fortress Café 60 minutes ago.
23:09 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen -f sticky
23:10 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen -f sticky
23:10 <|Sticky|> there was another madmax at some point wasnt there??
23:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
23:10 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sticky has last been seen on LoBo'S ~|SrT< clan server 0 days 22 hours 47 minutes ago.
23:10 <luke-jr|work> firewire in theory is much nicer than USB, but at least in Linux lacks in hotplugging reliability
23:11 <wrtlprnft> |Sticky|: there you go. use -f to match exact names
23:11 <|Sticky|> ahh thnx
23:11 <wrtlprnft> though it's pretty ugly parsing
23:12 <wrtlprnft> it only works if “-f ” is the first three chars
23:12 <|Sticky|> need to be able to run a grep from the armabot
23:12 <luke-jr|work> heh
23:13 <|Sticky|> last time i used firewire lib1394 and raw1394 they were ok...dont know if they could hot plug, never tried
23:14 <luke-jr|work> that's got nothing to do with hotplugging
23:15 <luke-jr|work> I'm talking about a real simple case, an external HD
23:15 <madmax|pt> |Sticky|: dunno. the only one i saw was some months ago.
23:16 <madmax|pt> perhaps a very long time ago it existed one :p
23:16 <|Sticky|> heh
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23:19 <|Sticky|> although one thing usb has is that most laptops have a powered usb port but only a 4 pin non powerd firewire
23:20 <luke-jr|work> my wife's laptop has a powered firewire :o
23:20 <luke-jr|work> full sized
23:20 <|Sticky|> mac??
23:22 <|Sticky|> 1394b will be SWEET tho
23:22 <luke-jr|work> iBook
23:23 <luke-jr|work> running Gentoo
23:23 <|Sticky|> yeah apple are pushing the whole 1394 stuff. didnt they develop it??
23:23 <madmax|pt> yes
23:23 <madmax|pt> i think so
23:25 <luke-jr|work> dunno, hardware in general seems to get suckier and suckier
23:25 <|Sticky|> i recon ill be the first to create the gigiabit ethernet memory stick
23:25 <luke-jr|work> um
23:25 <luke-jr|work> that makes no sense fyi
23:25 <|Sticky|> heh i know
23:25 <luke-jr|work> or does it :o
23:25 <luke-jr|work> actually, it's a great idea
23:25 <|Sticky|> probably cant write to solid state that fast anyway
23:25 <luke-jr|work> plug it into an ethernet jack and access via SFTP/Samba/NFS/etc
23:26 <luke-jr|work> can write faster than 100mbit
23:26 <|Sticky|> reading a stick over gige would be fast tho
23:27 <luke-jr|work> seriously, that could be a pretty good idea
23:27 <|Sticky|> heh
23:27 <luke-jr|work> except
23:27 <|Sticky|> copywrited me
23:27 <luke-jr|work> you'd need a battery
23:27 <luke-jr|work> you can't copyright an idea foo
23:29 <|Sticky|> id say the big problem is people only have 1 network jack in the worst places generaly too
23:29 <luke-jr|work> heh
23:29 <luke-jr|work> well, before USB nobody had USB jacks ;)
23:30 <|Sticky|> altough 90% of home users probably arnt using the network port
23:30 <luke-jr|work> besides
23:30 <luke-jr|work> if you have an internet connection, you don't NEED a memory stick
23:31 <|Sticky|> they are handy when you want to take home 2gb's of work
23:31 <wrtlprnft> pfft. the network port is about the second most important thing on a computer after the power cable
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23:32 <|Sticky|> alot of peole now use usb modems and dont have a lan so network ports dont get used
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23:34 <luke-jr|work> |Sticky|: ...
23:35 <|Sticky|> ...
23:35 <luke-jr|work> no gamer would use a USB modem :p
23:35 <|Sticky|> heh...not all people are gamers
23:36 <|Sticky|> just things like my parents that get sent a usb modem with thier subscription, only have 1 pc so never even think there is an alternative
23:37 <|Sticky|> many home users are the same
23:37 * wrtlprnft just knows that a power cable, a network cable, and a life CD that automatically uses DHCP and starts an sshd is enough to install linux on a computer
23:38 <wrtlprnft> so the network port IS important :P
23:38 <|Sticky|> i was surprised talking to a friend, reasonably young and uses computers, even doing a phd but had almost no idea about how to use them or what all that hardware actualy did
23:39 <wrtlprnft> * live CD
23:40 <wrtlprnft> life CD to the rescue lol
23:42 <|Sticky|> did also love the story one one of my friends running linux calling a isp help line "click the start button"..."i dont have one"..."well you must click it"
23:42 <|Sticky|> wen on for about 5 min before pretending to follow thier instructions
23:43 <wrtlprnft> :D
23:43 * wrtlprnft loves reading manuals how to configure outlook just to find the address of the pop3/smtp servers
23:43 <luke-jr|work> lol
23:43 <wrtlprnft> *on how to
23:44 <madmax|pt> indeed
23:45 <|Sticky|> recently i bought an item and the first thing the sales rep said was "your not going to do anything stupid like use linux with it are you"
23:45 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:45 <wrtlprnft> what item was that?
23:46 <|Sticky|> gigabit ethernet camera
23:46 <wrtlprnft> why would an ethernet camera not work on linux?
23:46 <|Sticky|> since the company have not released the drivers
23:47 <|Sticky|> it only hit the market about 3 weeks ago
23:48 <|Sticky|> it would work provided you are willing to reimplement the api your self
23:48 <wrtlprnft> oh, i thought you meant one of these web interface things
23:49 <|Sticky|> naa
23:51 -!- MaZuffeR [n=MaZuffeR@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Leaving."]
23:51 <|Sticky|> http://www.baslerweb.com/beitraege/beitrag_en_48495.html its a beast at 200fps
23:53 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:55 <luke-jr|work> erm
23:55 <luke-jr|work> how is using Linux stupid?
23:56 <|Sticky|> i just think the sales rep reguarded linux as a bad idea
23:56 <|Sticky|> the geek option i suppose
23:57 <|Sticky|> hay you get it a lot where you say will it run on linux and people just say "no idea, why would you want to"
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This is an LLM-free zone. In general, I am unwilling to use (fight with) any form of "GenAI" to write code for me. So, for the forseeable future, everything on this site will continue to be written by a very silly goose (wait that's me honk honk) with some parts written by other humans as well (silly hu-mon) rather than any plausible-series-of-words token-eating machine. Even my libraries are out of date, and suddenly that's a good thing!
(Although the style has changed several times and content has been added and changed, the base of this site has barely been updated since 2015. But it Ain't Broke!)
This site is also occasionally tested with older browsers, but compatibility is not guarenteed. Although, if you have an old obscure browser and something isn't working that previously did, I guess you can tell me (nelg) about it...
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