IRCLogs for #armagetron in 2006-10-29 • ArmaNelgTron.tk

Log from 2006-10-29:
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00:03 <madmax|pt> <pub> come to AST Fortress! </pub>
00:13 <Van-hayes> #armaservers
00:13 <armabot> Van-hayes: Norm's Place (12 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a ffL a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || ELOroks-Land (5 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Server (5 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (4 players) || AST Server |Fortress| (4 (1 more message)
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01:14 <luke-jr_> population 14 mil
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02:52 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
02:52 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 51.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Wind: NE at 4 mph (6 km/h).
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02:43 <GodTodd> #cnn 75023
02:43 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Plano, TX is 72.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Wind: S at 3 mph (5 km/h).
02:46 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
02:46 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 60.3°F (8:46 PM CDT on October 28, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa. 
02:46 <ghableska> O_o
02:46 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
02:46 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 51.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Wind: NE at 4 mph (6 km/h).
02:46 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:46 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 44.6°F (7:54 PM CDT on October 28, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa. 
03:19 <ghableska> #night
03:19 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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03:30 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
03:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.39in / 995hPa | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 28mph / 44km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. Rain at times heavy beginning early this evening and ending overnight. Amount 30 to 40 mm. Fog patches developing this evening. Wind southeast 30 km/h gusting to 50 increasing to 60 gusting to 100 this evening then becoming (2 more messages)
03:30 <Vanhayes> #more 
03:30 <Vanhayes> #more 
03:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: southwest 50 gusting to 80 overnight. Temperature rising to 13 by morning.; Sunday - Showers. Risk of thundershowers late in the morning and in the afternoon. Amount 2 to 4 mm. Wind southwest 50 km/h gusting to 80. Temperature steady near 8. Sunday night..cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. Risk of thundershowers in the evening. Wind west 50 km/h gusting to 70. Low plus 3. ...Western Half of (1 more message)
03:30 <armabot> Vanhayes: Restigouche County....; Monday - Cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers. Windy. High plus 5.;
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03:36 <Van-hayes> #ping
03:36 <armabot> pong
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03:44 <Fonkay> hidy ho
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04:01 <Vanhayes> hey Fonkay 
04:14 <Fonkay> hey
04:33 <Fonkay> dead in here tonight
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05:03 <Fonkay> #q
05:03 <armabot> Fonkay: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> well, it is saturday night and *some* of us have lives :)
05:07 <GodTodd> say it ain't so!
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> it ain't so!
05:08 <GodTodd> see, i knew it wasn't true :)
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> you only think that.  how do you know I'm not lying?
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> so, I finally decided on a goatee, because the white hair is concentrated on my chin and the hair on my cheeks itches
05:09 <GodTodd> it's all in agreed perception...if i decide it's true then it is...for me at least :)
05:09 <GodTodd> yeah...ostensibly i have a goatee myself
05:10 <Fonkay> if i remembered what you looked like i'd tell you... but alas
05:11 <Fonkay> all i can remember is hair
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05:12 <Fonkay> wb
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, now there's more hair.  :)  In a month or so I'll take another picture and make it my avatar so y'all can see my goatee.
05:13 <Fonkay> hair is no more?
05:13  * Lucifer_arma looked for the "submit" button before hitting enter on that last line.
05:13 <Fonkay> oh, ok, wait, i can't read
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> Hair is still there, it's just more hair becasue the last pic didn't have any on my face and now there is.
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's rich grandparents don't seem to be showing a prejudice over the hair anymore
05:14 <Fonkay> my bf cut his long hair off a few mnth ago
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's actually kind of frustrating.  When I was 20, having long hair was fun in part because I could fight what I thought ws a stupid prejudice.
05:14 <Fonkay> he looks much younger without it
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> But now at 30 (or so) people just accept it without applying a prejudice.  Is it because I'm not a cocky youngster anymore, or has the world changed that much in 10 (or so) years?
05:15 <Fonkay> i think it's you that's changed
05:15 <GodTodd> i think it's a little of both
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> heh, well, I still get some weird looks when I kiss my wife in public.  She doesn't look as old as she is and I apparently look older than I am.
05:16 <GodTodd> hrmm...i might be changing my major
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> I think there's a third factor that I sabotaged y'all's responses by neglecting to mention.  :)
05:17 <Fonkay> when my dad was about 35 and my sister was 15, they had the exact opposite problem.. when they went out, everyone thought they were a couple :/
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> I think people are more accepting of what you can do when you're older because you're wiser and stuff, and when you're younger, well, you're "Just a kid"
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: to what?  AE?
05:17 <GodTodd> hey...in canada, you never know, fonkay ;)
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> haha
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, with hair on my chin, people will probably start mistaking me for her father again
05:18 <GodTodd> utd is introducing a CE BS
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> Chemical Engineering?
05:18 <GodTodd> computer engineering
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> ah
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> what does a computer engineer do?
05:18 <Fonkay> it's not that, it's that fact that i have pictures of my dad at 18, and pics at 38 and he look exactly the same
05:18 <GodTodd> not sure...that's why it's still a 'might' :)
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> I know that sounds kind of dumb, but I can think of several things a computer engineer can do :)
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  I look completely different than I did at 18.  :)
05:19 <GodTodd> i envision something along the lines of robotics and AI
05:19 <GodTodd> tho that may be a pipe dream
05:19 <GodTodd> :)
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
05:20 <Fonkay> when ryan had long hiar he looked like he was in his mid-thirties
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, AI is a major of its own, isn't it?  Maybe it's only available for graduate studies, ie you get your BS in programming and your MS in AI
05:20 <GodTodd> that's what i'd figure...but i've been wrong once before
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> but maybe AI has finally moved out of being mostly theoretical/research work
05:21 <GodTodd> ok...i'm changing
05:21 <GodTodd> Computer engineers are electrical engineers that have additional training in the areas of software design and hardware-software integration
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> better check it out.  :)  Robotics as a degree is basically a combo, like BS in Mechanical Engineering and MS in Electrical Engineering
05:21 <GodTodd> that sounds rad
05:21 <GodTodd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> so you're looking at BIOS, kernel/cpu interaction, that sort of thing?
05:22 <Fonkay> computers suck
05:22 <GodTodd> hah! robotics is in there :)
05:22 <GodTodd> right
05:22 <GodTodd> firmware and shit
05:23 <GodTodd> the land twixt hardware and software
05:23 <GodTodd> ooooh i bet i'd get to fuck with VR too :)
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm considering going for a MS in robotics, or whatever fancy word spells "robotics"
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> I think AE + Robotics will make my resume look very good and open up possibilities for work that I really want to do :)
05:24 <GodTodd> well...utd has masters and phd in CE already
05:24  * Lucifer_arma needs to build an R2 unit
05:24 <GodTodd> now getting the BS program
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> sounds like a bullshit program
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> er
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> so my wife said at dinner last night (her grandparents are visiting, hence the grandparent comment) that my degree was 135 credit hours
05:25 <GodTodd> yeah....i can only sit on my AAS...working on my right to BS ;)
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> and I corrected her, because at UT it's 128 credit hours
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> then I suggested she got the 135 figure from A&M's program
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> so her step-mother said "That's because of all the remedial math courses aggies have to take"
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> damn UT snobbery
05:26 <GodTodd> haha
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> I stepped on her.  The woman's small, easy to step on, like Plankton.  Smells like him, too.
05:26 <GodTodd> what's plankton smell like?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> Pointed out that A&M has a much higher-rated AE program than UT
05:27 <GodTodd> and the dude who did c++ teaches there
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> and that those extra credit hours are for engineering specific classes not offered at UT
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't have to whip out Bjarne Stroustroup on her, she cowed back a bit
05:27 <GodTodd> haha
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> but had I had to continue my offensive (heh), I'd have thrown him at her, and then said that I'd gotten enough UT snobbery in my calc 2 class
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05:28 <GodTodd> btw...it shows you have kids when you pull the plankton references :P
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05:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:29 <GodTodd> yeah a&m is a good school
05:29 <Fonkay> Plankton? other than the obvioous
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> the thing that irritates me so much about her UT snobbery is that she applies it to her daughter.  Her daughter got a BA in Art with a minor in business, "so [she] can sell her paintings"
05:29 <GodTodd> texas has a lot of good universities actually
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> and she had like a 2.3 GPA or something
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> how can you be a snob with a record like that?  Isn't a snob by definition someone who's "better than that guy"?
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> and yes, A&M is one of the best engineering schools in the country, as is UT.  The two are peers, comparable in most fields.
05:30 <GodTodd> no...a snob is someone who "thinks" they are "better than that guy"
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> If you want either ME or AE, though, A&M beats UT quite soundly
05:30 <GodTodd> hey....utd is not bad either :P
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, I don't know how different the other UT schools are.  I know UTEP is a really good school, and I just lump all the UT schools together
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> they are all very well-rated and have good records in industry
05:31 <GodTodd> yeah...the whole UT system rocks
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> and their alumni have done well
05:31 <GodTodd> well...utd was started by TI
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> hell, UT alumni put us on the moon, come right to it
05:31 <GodTodd> specifically to train people for their field
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> AND UT ALUMNI DIDN'T TAKE US BACK
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> :)
05:32 <GodTodd> #last --with 3000
05:32 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
05:32  * Lucifer_arma notes he lives in UT's home city, so there's substantial exposure to UT snobbery here
05:32 <GodTodd> bet it's not there anymore :(
05:33 <Fonkay> does the states still have dst?
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> I think one of the astronauts that went up on Discovery this last time was a UTEP grad
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> yes?
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> it used to be the Sunday before halloween was the changeover.  DOn't know now that bushie got his fingers on it.
05:34 <Fonkay> hmmm
05:34 <Fonkay> oh yes, it's been moved though. to late august
05:34 <Fonkay> august, wtf
05:34 <Fonkay> november
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully it'll be on NOvember 20th
05:34 <GodTodd> #quote add "It was like playing a game with a ping of 3000."  -- John Carmack, Founder, Armadillo Aerospace
05:34 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.  Quote #29 added.
05:34 <Fonkay> i should stop thinking about other shit while typing
05:34 <GodTodd> there we go
05:34 <GodTodd> :)
05:35 <GodTodd> afaik, dst is tomorrow
05:35 <GodTodd> hrmm
05:35 <Fonkay> it's officially 12:36 here
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05:37 <Fonkay> we're not going to be in sync until next year
05:37 <GodTodd> first sunday in nov starting next year
05:38 <Fonkay> which make everything awkward annoying
05:38 <GodTodd> damn....march to november starting next year
05:38 <GodTodd> 8 fucking months
05:39 <GodTodd> what is the use?
05:39 <GodTodd> heh
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> starting next year?
05:39 <Fonkay> this year for you i think
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> so will I have to replace my atomic clocks next year, then?
05:39 <Fonkay> next year for canada
05:41 <GodTodd> 2007 for us
05:41 <GodTodd> march of 2007
05:41 <Fonkay> oh, ok
05:41 <GodTodd> we never start nuthin at the end of a year ;)
05:41 <GodTodd> well...cept elections
05:41 <GodTodd> heh
05:41 <Fonkay> i thought for some reason that it started beginiing of this year
05:42 <GodTodd> http://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> Beginning in 2007, DST will start the second Sunday of March and end on the first Sunday of November.
05:42 <GodTodd> everything you ever wanted to know 
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> aha, we're looking at the same webpage
05:42 <GodTodd> :)
05:43 <Fonkay> i hate dst.. it takes me until jan to change all the clocks.
05:43 <Fonkay> i always forget at least one
05:43 <GodTodd> most of my clocks are automatic
05:43 <GodTodd> just my alarm clock and my watch aren't
05:43 <GodTodd> and the car clock...but i never change that anyway
05:43 <Fonkay> not even my computer is
05:43 <GodTodd> my computer is
05:44 <GodTodd> as well as the vcrs and dvds
05:45 <Fonkay> i don't have either here
05:45 <GodTodd> well...canada *does* have trees
05:45 <GodTodd> that's something
05:45 <Fonkay> it's the stupid wall clocks and wtahces that always screw me up though
05:47 <GodTodd> the computer keys too
05:47 <GodTodd> ;)
05:47 <Fonkay> ok, bye
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05:48 <GodTodd> hrmm
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> my clocks are automatic too, but I want to know if I need to buy new clocks to deal with the new dst schedule
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here want to draw up new unit tiles for freeciv?
06:01 <GodTodd> I have no artistic ability :/
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06:01 <GodTodd> mom will do it
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> hey mom, you want to draw up new unit tiles for freeciv?
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> i was thinking about doing it already
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> wait
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> well, I want them for units that don't exist.  :)  I want to extend the ruleset to include some neat sci-fi tech
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> oh
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not comfortable with freeciv ending at modern tech and want to extend it into the future
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> mostly I want SheVa guns from the posleen books.  :)
06:03 <GodTodd> basically, you want to merge freeciv with alpha centauri?
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> and armored infantry, and plasma cannons, and reactionless fighters/bombers, ICBMs, etc
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> don't know, never played alpha centauri
06:04 <GodTodd> it's a "continuation" of civ
06:04 <GodTodd> it's for after you colonize AC
06:04 <GodTodd> i have it around here somewhere
06:04 <GodTodd> heh
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> oh.  hmm
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> no, I just want more unit choices.  :)
06:05 <GodTodd> heh
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> I want things like mortars, ground-based missile boats, and some other stuff.  I want to flesh out ancient tech a bit, well, all the techs along the way I want to flesh out with more units
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> and maybe more intermediate techs along the way
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> I figure it's open source, so why not take advantage of the opportunity to try to correct the things I don't like about it?
06:08 <GodTodd> that's the whole point, isn't it?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> so, does 2.1 offer anything new that matters?
06:11 <GodTodd> damn damn damn
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:13 <GodTodd> utd needs to get a BSCE plan posted 
06:13 <GodTodd> now
06:13 <GodTodd> heh
06:13 <GodTodd> i guess it won't matter for a while yet, tho
06:16 <Your_mom_arma> im willing to take a shot at it at least, mabey brainstorm a couple of the units we want like crazy elephant units
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd like mortars, ground-based missile boats (missile launchers), plasma cannons to obsolete howitzers, armored infantry
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> some other stuff :)
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> gunpowder-based rocketeers of some sort
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> grenadiers
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to seriously update the modern air units so that stealth isn't the only option
06:31 <Seyahnav> I think they should add air carrier
06:32 <Seyahnav> thatd be alot more usefull than just a plain carrier
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06:32 <Lucifer_arma> air carrier?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> the limit we have right now on what can be added is having tiles drawn for the units :)
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> if those of us that play here are willing to throw the tiles together, I'm willing to do the work on the rulesets
06:34 <Vanhayes> unless you want stick men, and the like, I cant do anything
06:34 <Vanhayes> heh, stick tank
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's plenty to work out anyway.  :)  I want to stretch the modern tech and add new techs after modern tech to get into some sci-fi stuff
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> we can't get into interplanetary growth and warfare, afaik, but we can add quite a bit more and still stay on one planet
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like an air unit that can fly 26 squares or so and drop paratroopers
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I'd rather have that than airports for paratroopers
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> I should probably make a list somewhere, heh
06:36 <Vanhayes> the most Id like to see is more variety in the early techs, so you wouldnt have to wait untill the modern stuff to start really building an army
06:37 <Vanhayes> well para troopers dont need an airport to work if I remember right
06:37 <Vanhayes> just need to be within 10 squares of the city 
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I thought they needed an airport
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> but you should be able to paradrop other units, and paratroopers' special ability is being able to move afterwards
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> among future techs I'd like is an air unit that can carry howitzers and tanks
06:38 <Vanhayes> nah, airports only let you transfer one unit a turn to any other city with an airport
06:38 <Vanhayes> ya, those would be very useful
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> a long-range helicopter
06:39 <Vanhayes> heh, I love the UN wonder now
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> and yeah, I want a lot more early choices.  I don't think the selection from gunpowder->mobile warfare is full enough
06:39 <Vanhayes> with it helicopters dont lose health
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:39 <Vanhayes> if they were faster Id use only them
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> I want a helicopter refuel unit that can be built by players who don't have the un wonder :)
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> apparently airbases don't affect helicopters
06:40 <Vanhayes> ya, stupid how airports dont work for that
06:40 <Vanhayes> airbase*
06:40 <Vanhayes> lost a few helicopters figuring that one out
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm gonna study some calculus, but you might want to think how you'd like to change it to make it more fitting your own view of history :)
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> maybe in a couple of days I'll seriously worry about it.  I really want more military choices and some different upgrade choices
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> riflemen should upgrade again, imo
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> warriers should upgrade to phalanx instead of pikemen
06:42 <Vanhayes> ya, riflemen are from ww1 and 2 era 
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, it's easier to build a military when you start with 0 techs because you can build warriors for cheap, and then uprade them later to musketeers
06:42 <Vanhayes> they should at least upgrade to alpine or marines, if not a new unit
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> riflemen are from ~1850s and were obsolete by WWII :)
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> Davy Crockett was a rifleman
06:43 <GodTodd> not in canada ;)
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:43 <Vanhayes> hey, our rifle men are still good
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to see tanks get tiered, too
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> so 2-3 tank types using just modern tech
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> icbm's that are freaking expensive, but deliver a nuclear payload from one city to any other city
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> it kind of irritates me that there's no place for the cold war in freeciv
06:45 <Vanhayes> I want moon bases
06:45 <Vanhayes> with lasers
06:46 <Vanhayes> or some type of space weapon
06:48 <Vanhayes> like, you have to build a wonder, then build the stalite/weapon then build the ammo and it destroys any units on one square
06:49 <Vanhayes> I'd call it the Death Ray
06:53 <Your_mom_arma> well i drew up a morter guy
06:53 <Your_mom_arma> looks so so
06:54 <Your_mom_arma> should i just make a post on the forums? or upload it somewhere else
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> forums are fine
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking I'd like two things most of all.  :)  More heavy offense/light defense units (like mortars) for gunpowder->mobile warfare
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd like a more conservative set of settings to accomodate a nuclear era where nearly every unit has a nuclear analog because of the development of tactical nuclear weapons
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> a more conservative set of settings is needed because the default is so bad that it only takes a few nukes to cause nuclear winter,
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> and that would make a tier of nuclear units useless.  But I'd like to make a tier of nuclear units that would be useful and separates the sci-fi units I want from modern units to hopefully give civilizations that are behind a chance to catch up before plasma cannons arrive
07:03 <Vanhayes> man... if I knew anything about programing I'd add a wonder called world peace, make it really hard to get, and have it destroy everyone's cities and units
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:03 <Your_mom_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=103111#103111
07:04 <Your_mom_arma> haha van
07:05 <Your_mom_arma> must start building it 2000 bc , takes 1million gold to buy and turns dont decreace that number city size must be 16 to complete building
07:06 <Vanhayes> ha, yes and the only description is "this wonder brings around world peace." or something like that
07:07 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:09 <Your_mom_arma> like how i had civ set up in that sceenshot?
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07:20 <Your_mom_arma> i killed the conversation thats +2 points for me
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, got distracted reading about combat :)
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> that mortar guy will work.  :)
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> are we ever going to finish that game of civ with soidey?
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> spidey even
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, sure, but I've got a calc test tomorrow, and another one on thursday
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> and my wife's grandparents are visiting thsi weekend
07:29 <Your_mom_arma> all the included images are open gl right?
07:42 <Your_mom_arma> bbiab
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08:12 <DrJoeTron> well
08:12 <DrJoeTron> that was
08:12 <DrJoeTron> quite possibly
08:12 <DrJoeTron> the stupidest thing ever
08:13 <Your_mom_arma> ?
08:13 <DrJoeTron> oh fuck
08:13 <DrJoeTron> holy fuck
08:14 <DrJoeTron> my friend just got me an SA account
08:15 <Your_mom_arma> sa?
08:15 <Vanhayes> SA?
08:16 <Your_mom_arma> something awfull?
08:17 <Vanhayes> Sickeningly arrogant?
08:19 <DrJoeTron> something awful
08:19 <DrJoeTron> im a goon now
08:27 <DrJoeTron> ok
08:27 <DrJoeTron> so i went to this race track
08:27 <DrJoeTron> i was told it was supposed to be demolition derby
08:27 <DrJoeTron> instead it was freezing my ass off watching monte carlo's racing for 4 hours
08:27 <Your_mom_arma> haha
08:28 <DrJoeTron> but
08:28 <DrJoeTron> the trailer race
08:28 <DrJoeTron> complete carnage
08:28 <DrJoeTron> and was amazing
08:28 <DrJoeTron> but not worth 4 hours of freezing my ass off
08:29 <Your_mom_arma> tcant go wrong with tearing apart trailers with other trailers
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08:46 <Van-hayes> #night
08:46 <armabot> Good night Van-hayes!
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09:02 <Lucifer_arma> "Attrition is not a strategy. It is, in fact, irrefutable proof of the absence of any strategy.
09:25 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
09:25 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune: Got protoplasm?
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10:36  * spidey_ yawns
10:41 <[Xpert]DarkStar> heh
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15:36 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
15:36 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 34.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 81%. Wind: E at 3 mph (5 km/h).
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16:55 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
16:55 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 41.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 64%. Wind: ESE at 6 mph (10 km/h).
16:58 <spidey_> #cnn 38526
16:58 <armabot> spidey_: Error: No such location could be found.
16:58 <spidey_> oi
16:58 <ghableska> O_o
16:58 <spidey_> #cnn 38256
16:58 <armabot> spidey_: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 52.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 69%. Wind: SW at 5 mph (8 km/h).
16:58  * ghableska pokes spidey_
16:58  * spidey_ drop kicks ghableska 
16:58 <ghableska> :'(
16:58 <spidey_> you asked for it= p
16:58 <ghableska> :P
16:59 <ghableska> #roulette
16:59 <armabot> ghableska: *click*
16:59  * wrtlprnft shoots spidey_ a glance
16:59 <ghableska> o.0
16:59 <wrtlprnft> one of those evil ones
16:59 <spidey_> you know
16:59 <ghableska> heh
16:59 <spidey_> it takes a real moron to play roulette
16:59 <spidey_> #roulette
16:59 <armabot> spidey_: *click*
16:59 <ghableska> come on wrtlprnft, dropkick spidey_
17:00  * spidey_ pokes ghableska in the eye
17:00 -!- You're now known as SpideySlapper
17:00 <ghableska> ow
17:00  * SpideySlapper slaps spidey
17:00  * SpideySlapper drop kicks spidey
17:00  * ghableska slaps SpideySlapper
17:00  * SpideySlapper slaps spidey
17:00  * SpideySlapper slaps spidey
17:00 <spidey_> guru3, told you wrtl did it to
17:00 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
17:00 <wrtlprnft> well, i was asked to do itz
17:00 <wrtlprnft> kick ghableska if you like
17:00  * ghableska prods spidey_'s unresponsive body :P
17:01 <spidey_> did you just say you wanted to have sex with me?
17:01 <ghableska> ...
17:01  * ghableska drop kicks spidey_
17:01 <spidey_> gl trying that
17:01 <spidey_> i'ma spider, i'm like this tall -------
17:01  * ghableska squishes spidey_
17:02 <spidey_> call me superspider
17:02 <spidey_> bwhaaha
17:02 <[Xpert]DarkStar> grow up...
17:02 <[Xpert]DarkStar> dudes
17:02 <spidey_> [Xpert]DarkStar, no!
17:06 <spidey_> awe
17:06 <spidey_> i'm outta peanut butter
17:08 <wrtlprnft> #unload CIA
17:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
17:08 <wrtlprnft> #load CIA
17:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
17:09  * wrtlprnft slaps someone for testing
17:09 <armabot>  Grow up wrtlprnft!
17:09  * spidey_ drop kicks wejp_ 
17:09 <armabot>  Grow up spidey_!
17:09 <spidey_> er
17:09  * spidey_ stabs wrtlprnft 
17:09  * ghableska waves to armabot
17:09 <spidey_> bwahah
17:11 <spidey_> hm
17:11 <spidey_> i wonder
17:12 <spidey_> if my host disabled safe_mode in php.ini
17:12  * spidey_ goes to play
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17:31 <spidey_> hm
17:31 <spidey_> oh erll
17:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> fbgrab is damn cool
17:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> http://xpert-darkstar.is-a-geek.org/~pso/fbgrab.png
17:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> (and so is my console font)
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18:06 <wrtlprnft> what's so special about either?
18:06 <wrtlprnft> and what's fgrab
18:06 <wrtlprnft> ?
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18:22 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
18:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7 players) || The Lobster Cage (6 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Server (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Capture The Flag Sty (5 players) || The Tavern [armagetronad.de] (5 players) || Tigers Network (1 more message)
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19:36 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
19:36 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 57.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 43%. Wind: SSE at 11 mph (18 km/h).
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19:41 <Van-hayes> #weather Saint John
19:41 <armabot> Van-hayes: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 46% | Pressure: 29.14in / 987hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 28mph / 44km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM AST; Today - Showers with the risk of thundershowers. Wind southwest 50 km/h gusting to 80 except gusting to 90 along the coast. High 11.; Tonight - Cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. Risk of thundershowers early this evening. Wind (1 more message)
19:41 <Van-hayes> #more
19:41 <armabot> Van-hayes: southwest 50 km/h gusting to 80. Low 6.; Monday - Cloudy. 30 percent chance of showers in the morning. Clearing in the evening. Wind west 50 km/h gusting to 80 becoming northwest 40 gusting to 60 late in the day. High 7. ...Western Half of Restigouche County....;
19:42 <Fonkay> windy
19:43 <Van-hayes> very, we used to have leaves on the trees, now they are all on the ground
19:44 <Van-hayes> so Im hoping it snows really soon so I wont have to rake them
19:44 <wrtlprnft> Van-hayes: that might be a phaenomenon induced by the time of the year…
19:44 <wrtlprnft> argh, bad english
19:45 <ghableska> Van-hayes: why not wait for the leaves to blow away?
19:45 <Van-hayes> heh, but I mean yesturday all the leaves were on the trees, today almost non are
19:45 <Van-hayes> well we arent the only one with trees, so any that blow away are usually replaced by others
19:46 <Van-hayes> ours blow to my neighbor on the right and my neighbor's on the left blow to me
19:46 <ghableska> heh
19:47 <Fonkay> yea, no leaves on the trees here either.
19:47 <Van-hayes> Im just happy that most of the trees around here are evergreens
19:47 <Fonkay> was thunder and lightening here last night
19:47 <Van-hayes> same, poured for almost all of saturday
19:48 <Fonkay> only started around 8-9pm last night, and it's dry here now.
19:49 <Van-hayes> well, its been raining here for almost a week on and off
19:49 <Van-hayes> monday doesnt look too bad
19:51 <Fonkay> I'm hoping for snow so it'll warm up a bit
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20:57 <madmax|pt> #weather lisbon
20:57 <armabot> madmax|pt: Temperature: 75Â°F / 24Â°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 7:30 PM WET; Chance of Rain. High:69 ° F. / 21 ° C.; Overcast. Low:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Overcast. High:69 ° F. / 21 ° C.; Overcast. Low:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.;
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21:46 <Van-hayes> #weather Saint John
21:46 <armabot> Van-hayes: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.17in / 988hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 28mph / 44km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM AST; Tonight - Showers. A few thundershowers early this evening. Wind southwest 50 km/h gusting to 80 becoming west 40 gusting to 60 this evening. Low plus 3.; Monday - Cloudy with sunny periods and 30 percent chance of showers. Clearing late (1 more message)
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23:18 <madmax|pt> irssi is smart regarding netsplits
23:20 <DrJoeTron> man
23:20 <DrJoeTron> trying to get into communities is really scary
23:21 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #night
23:21 <armabot> Good night [Xpert]DarkStar!
23:21 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #all
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23:36 <Fonkay> hi
23:37 <ghableska> hi
23:37 <madmax|pt> hello
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23:42 <Fonkay> hey moms, tank
23:43 <Your_mom_arma> hi
23:44 <DrJoeTron> hello
23:44 <DrJoeTron> man i really bitched up my toe last night
23:44 <DrJoeTron> i have this giant blood blister right where it bends
23:45 <DrJoeTron> its misery to walk
23:45 <Fonkay> why?
23:45 <Your_mom_arma> ow
23:46 <DrJoeTron> slipped my foot on the stairs
23:46 <DrJoeTron> and the stairs have like this metal edge
23:46 <DrJoeTron> and when you slip with bare feet
23:46 <DrJoeTron> its like a cheese grater
23:46 <DrJoeTron> except for feet
23:47 <ghableska> :-/
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> did you manage to pick up the little grated pieces?
23:52 <Fonkay> that sounds like ouch
23:52 <DrJoeTron> nah it intact
23:52 <DrJoeTron> its*
23:53 <DrJoeTron> it was fine before i went to bed
23:53 <DrJoeTron> but i woke up with a blood blister
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23:53 <DrJoeTron> and its really awkward joining other irc channels
23:53 <Fonkay> my client apparently is going to expire in 16 days
23:54 <DrJoeTron> oh
23:54 <Fonkay> and it subtracts a day every time i log off and then log back in
23:54 <DrJoeTron> you're using the official one
23:54 <DrJoeTron> i got a free version from spidey i kept
23:54 <Fonkay> I dunno, i downloaded the first one i saw
23:54 <DrJoeTron> let me send it to you
23:55 <ghableska> what client?
23:55 <DrJoeTron> X-Chat
23:55 <Fonkay> I have mIRC
23:55 <ghableska> I have Trillian
23:56 <Your_mom_arma> gaim
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1935933.ece
23:56 <madmax|pt> irssi?
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> konversation
23:59 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma sn is Naruto3199
23:59 <Your_mom_arma> did you actually register it haha
23:59 <DrJoeTron> nah
23:59 <DrJoeTron> im saying its yours
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