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Log from 2006-10-23:
--- Day changed Mon Oct 23 2006
00:09 -!- Van-hayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034246165.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
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00:11 <Seyahnav> #ping
00:11 <armabot> pong
00:11 <Seyahnav> #ping
00:11 <armabot> pong
00:13 <ghableska> #pong
00:13 <armabot> ping
00:20 -!- Van-hayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034246165.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
00:22 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
00:23 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 41.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Wind: WNW at 19 mph (31 km/h).
00:27 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034242069.nb.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:27 -!- Seyahnav is now known as Vanhayes
00:28 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
00:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Low plus 4.; Monday - Cloudy. 40 percent chance of showers in the morning. Periods of rain beginning late in the morning. Amount 5 mm. High 10. Monday night..periods of rain. (1 more message)
00:28 <Vanhayes> #more
00:28 <armabot> Vanhayes: Amount 5 to 10 mm. Fog patches developing in the evening. Low plus 5.; Tuesday - Showers. High 9.;
00:37 -!- Your_mom_arma [n=Jacob@pool-71-245-199-198.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
00:38 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@unaffiliated/madmaxpt/x-23911] has joined #armagetron
00:38 <madmax|pt> #armaservers
00:38 <armabot> madmax|pt: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (9 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Unnamed Server (5 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5 players) || Norm's Place (5 players) || ~[Wing]~ Clan Official Server (3 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (3 (1 more message)
00:41 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails capture
00:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Capture the Flag (This could be your server!): Players (5/16): ), RedPimp, SliceR, taco, ~*SP*~joda.bot
00:51 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2006/10/21/fraggle-rock-is-back/
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01:06 -!- Fonkay [i=Fonkay@blk-89-218-73.eastlink.ca] has joined #armagetron
01:07 <Fonkay> hi
01:07 <ghableska> hi
01:07 <Fonkay> you're always here ghab
01:09 <ghableska> lol
01:12 <Vanhayes> #night
01:12 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
01:12 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034243227.nb.aliant.net] has quit [""Quitted""]
01:13 <SupaAznMa> who else is here
01:18 <Your_mom_arma> #lastseen SupaAznMa
01:19 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: timed out
01:19 <Fonkay> no one
01:20 <SupaAznMa> lol
01:20 -!- SupaAznMa is now known as Subliminal
01:22 <Fonkay> hey mom
01:22 <Your_mom_arma> hey
01:23 <Fonkay> how was the game?
01:23 <Subliminal> #lastseen Subliminal
01:23 <armabot> Subliminal: SuBlImInAl.FreQ has last been seen on  -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server 34 minutes ago.
01:24 <Subliminal> :D
01:24 <Your_mom_arma> pretty boring, where you there to watch vanhays bot declare war
01:25 <Fonkay> almost
01:26 <Fonkay> he was about to i think,,
01:26 <Fonkay> I'm assuming i was taken over quickly
01:29 <Your_mom_arma> wehn i quit you still had 2 cities yet although no one else wanted to get rid of the bots, they kept sending settlers to my territory and they sunk my battleship
01:29 <Your_mom_arma> can i retype that
01:30 <Your_mom_arma> When I quit, you still had 2 cities left. No one else wanted to get rid of the bots... They kept sending settlers to my territory, and they sunk my battleship.
01:32 <Fonkay> hehe
01:33 <Fonkay> i only had like 4-5 cities, and before i left, i gave one of them to the welsh i think
01:34 <Fonkay> i had taken one of them earlier.. so i gave it back
01:36 <Fonkay> #lastseen fonkay
01:36 <armabot> Fonkay: Fonkay has last been seen on Hold The Flag Sty 2 days 8 hours 13 minutes ago.
01:39 <Fonkay> does the weather thing only work for the US?
01:40 <Your_mom_arma> i think you have to use #cnn for canada, ask van
01:40 <Your_mom_arma> #cnn help
01:40 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Error: No such location could be found.
01:40 <Your_mom_arma> #weather help
01:40 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: The current temperature in Poplar Bluff, Missouri is 48.2°F (5:55 PM CDT on October 22, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa. 
01:40 <Your_mom_arma> umm
01:40 <Your_mom_arma> #help weather
01:40 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
01:41 <Your_mom_arma> #weather ontario
01:41 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: The current temperature in Ontario, OR is 62.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 29%. Wind: N at 3 mph (5 km/h).
01:42 <Your_mom_arma> try #weather nearest_city
01:43 <Fonkay> #weather New Glasgow, Nova Scotia
01:43 <armabot> Fonkay: The current temperature in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia is 39.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Wind: NNW at 12 mph (19 km/h).
01:43 <Subliminal> #weather
01:43 <armabot> Subliminal: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
01:44 <Fonkay> how so you do the conversion thing again?
01:44 <Subliminal> #weather 30342
01:44 <armabot> Subliminal: The current temperature in Atlanta Dekalb, Georgia is 62.6°F (6:53 PM EDT on October 22, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa.  Wind Advisory in effect from 12 PM to 6 PM EDT Monday... 
01:44 <Subliminal> #weather 12345
01:44 <armabot> Subliminal: The current temperature in Glenville, Scotia, New York is 41.7°F (7:40 PM EDT on October 22, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa. 
01:44 <Subliminal> lol
01:44 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:44 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 39.2°F (5:54 PM CDT on October 22, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa. 
01:45 <ghableska> #weather 54321
01:45 <Subliminal> #weather 00000
01:45 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "54321".
01:45 <ghableska> heh
01:45 <armabot> Subliminal: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "00000".
01:45 <Subliminal> #weather 11111
01:45 <armabot> Subliminal: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "11111".
01:45 <Fonkay> convert from f to c?
01:45 <Subliminal> #weather 00001
01:45 <armabot> Subliminal: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "00001".
01:45 <Subliminal> #help
01:45 <armabot> Subliminal: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
01:46 <Fonkay> #g convert 39Fahrenheit to Celcius
01:46 <armabot> Fonkay: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
01:46 <Fonkay> oops
01:47 <Fonkay> #g convert 39F to C
01:47 <armabot> Fonkay: 39 degrees Fahrenheit = 3.88888889 degrees Celsius
01:47 <Fonkay> ew
01:50 <ghableska> :P
01:55 -!- HellBlade-arma [n=HellBlad@cpe-66-27-66-22.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
01:56 <HellBlade-arma> hello
01:57 -!- HellBlade-arma [n=HellBlad@cpe-66-27-66-22.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
01:58 <Subliminal> [Fserve Active] - Trigger:[/ctcp Subliminal as.of.right.now.you.have.ten.seconds.to.type.all.of.this(0/20)] - Users:[0/2] - Record CPS:[21.5kB/s by KoSMiX] - Bytes Sent:[337.9MB] - Files Sent:[7] - SysReset 2.53
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02:09 <spidey> why do they have wares bots jumping random channels
02:12 <Fonkay> ?
02:14 <spidey> Subliminal> [Fserve Active] - Trigger:[/ctcp Subliminal as.of.right.now.you.have.ten.seconds.to.type.all.of.this(0/20)] - Users:[0/2] - Record CPS:[21.5kB/s by KoSMiX] - Bytes Sent:[337.9MB] - Files Sent:[7] - SysReset 2.53
02:14 <spidey> that's a warez bot
02:14 <Fonkay> and it does?
02:15 <spidey> sends warez over dcc...
02:15 <spidey> picture it as a ftp for irc
02:16 <spidey> actually no it's not a bot, just someone sharing them
02:16  * spidey scrolled up xD
02:18 <Commn> lol
02:18 <spidey> man i'm tired =(
02:19 <Fonkay> odd
02:19 <spidey> ?
02:19 <Fonkay> i dunno
02:19 <spidey> ...
02:19 <Fonkay> it works though
02:19 <Fonkay> thank you
02:19 <spidey> np =p
02:20 <spidey> i've never gotten a virus from it, but you still might wanna scan to be safe
02:20 <Fonkay> i have all that set up.
02:20 <spidey> so do i
02:20 <spidey> and i spent 6 hours fizing it again
02:21 <Fonkay> spent an hour with tech support trying to set up an email account 'cause something was blocking sending emails.
02:22 <spidey> lemme guess
02:22 <Fonkay> and i still have no idea what was causing it... but it's fixed now.
02:22 <spidey> mcafee or norton?
02:22 <Fonkay> nope
02:22 <spidey> hrm
02:22 <spidey> zone alarm?
02:22 <Fonkay> nope
02:22 <spidey> o.O
02:22 <spidey> atleast you're not as bad as hayes =p
02:22 <Fonkay> i have symantec antivirus and sygate firewall, but neither of those was blokcing it.
02:23 <spidey> symantec is norton
02:23 <Fonkay> symantec only because it free through the military
02:23 <Fonkay> oh 
02:23 <spidey> #google search symantec
02:23 <armabot> spidey: Search took 0.15 seconds: Symantec Search: <http://www.symantec.com/search/>; Threat Explorer - Symantec Corp.: <http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/vinfodb.html>; Symantec Search: <http://search.symantec.com/custom/us/query.html>; Search Redirect: <http://search.symantec.com/>; Symantec info: <http://www.networkworld.com/news/financial/symantec.html>; Symantec info: (2 more messages)
02:23 <spidey> erm
02:24 <spidey> http://www.symantec.com/product/index.jsp
02:24 <spidey> there ya go
02:24 <spidey> symantec owns norton
02:25 <Fonkay> but not the other way around
02:25 <spidey> hope you don't ever plan on removing it =p
02:25 <Fonkay> no, why?
02:25 <spidey> it's almost impossible
02:26 <Fonkay> once I'm done using it for school, this computer is going in the garbage
02:26 <spidey> gay
02:26 <spidey> don't abuse a computer like that!
02:26 <Fonkay> it's old as hell
02:26 <spidey> so
02:26 <spidey> it'd be a good server
02:26 <Fonkay> if i had any interest in hosting one, which I'm not
02:27 <spidey> my server i haven't bothered to fix yet is from '95 =p
02:27 <spidey> or '98
02:27 <spidey> i forget
02:27 <Fonkay> which i don't*
02:27 <spidey> lol
02:28 <spidey> i'm not talking about the kinda server you host =p
02:28 <Fonkay> :/
02:28 <spidey> a server is a computer for hosting things local
02:28 <spidey> or publicly
02:28 <spidey> which could be a number of things
02:28 <spidey> file storage , applications
02:28 <spidey> etc
02:30 <Fonkay> sure
02:30 <Fonkay> either way I'm completely computer illiterate and therefore it's going in the trash, or in a corner of my parents house
02:31 <spidey> lol
02:31 <spidey> abuser!
02:31 <Fonkay> i would give it away, but i have no one to give it to anyhow
02:32 <spidey> charity =p
02:33 <spidey> i'm getting a neo2-f 64bit board around janurary xD
02:33 <Fonkay> sure
02:33 <spidey> lol
02:34 <spidey> i'll just need a power supply and a case to put this one in
02:34  * Fonkay slaps spidey around a bit with a large trout
02:35  * spidey slaps Fonkay around a bit with a large cow
02:35 <spidey> moo!'
02:35 <Fonkay> what's with that?
02:35 <spidey> with what
02:35 <Fonkay> why does it always use the same slpping instrument?
02:35 <spidey> because it's mirc
02:35 <spidey> make your own scripts to change it =p
02:35 <spidey> sec
02:36 -!- Fonkay is now known as Lady
02:36 <spidey> nvm i deleted it
02:36  * Lady slaps spidey around a bit with a large trout
02:36 <spidey> ...
02:36 <Lady> all my DL's stopped and wont connect
02:36 <spidey> give it time
02:36 <spidey> sometimes people cut you off
02:37 <spidey> my movie finished xD
02:37 <Lady> all 7 people at one time?
02:37 <Lady> 7 DL's? with over 300 user on each
02:37 <spidey> well, then you've got something  blocking it =p
02:37 <spidey> 300? what the fuck connection you got
02:37 <spidey> i never get over 30
02:37 <Lady> i have 983 on one
02:38 <spidey> 983kb/s ?
02:38 <Lady> read silly
02:38 <spidey> can't
02:38 <spidey> i failed reading
02:38 <Lady> i see that now
02:39 <Lady> users not speed
02:39 <Lady> and i get about 100kb/s
02:39 <spidey> my 7th grade reading teacher was this fine 23y/o student teacher
02:39 <spidey> xD
02:39 <Lady> but i have like 5 people uploading, and none of my downloads will work
02:39 <spidey> how are you uploading if you haven't downloaded nothing yet
02:40 <Lady> i have downloaded things, but now it's stoppped
02:40 <Lady> stopped*
02:41 <spidey> then that means that most of the users went offline
02:41 <Commn> wait
02:41 <spidey> find another copy of it
02:41 <Commn> wait
02:41 <spidey> no
02:41 <Commn> what is a 'reading teacher' ?
02:41 <Lady> ...
02:41 <Lady> i did that
02:41 <spidey> you never had "Reading" as a class?
02:41 <Lady> they've all stopped
02:41 <Commn> i've had english lit
02:41 <Lady> I've never spidey
02:41 <Commn> i guess they would be the same ;p
02:41 <spidey> fonkay => maybe your isp block p2p?
02:41 <Commn> literature = reading ;p
02:41 <spidey> yes
02:42 <Commn> sorry, just cornfused ;)
02:42 <Lady> isp?
02:42 <Commn> internet service provider
02:42 <Commn> aka WHO YOU PAY FOR INTERNET
02:42 <Commn> THE TUBE GUY
02:42 <spidey> those retarded fuckers you get your internet from that never bother to fix problems
02:42 <Lady> hmmm.
02:42 <Lady> why?
02:43 <spidey> why not
02:43 <spidey> p2p is illegal
02:43 <spidey> if it's movies / music
02:43 <spidey> or pirated software
02:43 <Lady> also, my parents house is on the same isp and they haven't blocked it
02:43 <Commn> eh?
02:43 <Lady> oh, there it goes
02:43 <Commn> p2p is not illegal
02:43 <Lady> p2p isn't illegal in canada
02:43 <spidey> p2p isn't illegal
02:44 <spidey> but the files hosted on the networks is
02:44 <spidey> >:p
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> what about p2p podcasts, why block out legal p2p because of a few bad apples
02:44 <Lady> well, it's illegal, but it's not criminal
02:44 <Lady> i got it to work
02:44 <Lady> I just exited and then re-opend it
02:44 <spidey> i'ma go watch the omen
02:45 <Lady> don't
02:45 <spidey> why
02:45 <Lady> it's bad
02:45 <spidey> i spent 30 minutes downloading  it =p
02:45 <Lady> bad judgement
02:45 <Lady> 194 kb/s
02:46 <spidey> i get 384kb/s
02:46 <spidey> xD
02:46 <Commn> which omen version?
02:46 <spidey> 2006
02:46 <Commn> yuck
02:46 <Commn> original was ok
02:46 <spidey> new release i think
02:46 <Commn> i've heard remake is crap
02:46 <Lady> indeed it is
02:46 <spidey> everything's crap to ya'll >: O
02:46 <Lady> you know what was good? the departed
02:46 <Lady> that was good
02:47 <spidey> would download it but
02:47 <spidey> it's 4 hours
02:47 <spidey> 2 738mb parts
02:47 <Lady> I'm bad at remembering movie names
02:47 <Commn> Lady : limiting your upload speed should allow you to download faster
02:47 <spidey> no
02:47 <Lady> that would take up a 6th of my drive
02:47 <spidey> Commn, that's not true =p
02:48 <spidey> 6?
02:48 <spidey> wow
02:48 <spidey> then i guess you dun want the other 101 movies i got about 760mb each =p
02:49 <Lady> i have 6gb free
02:49 <Lady> 9 all together
02:49 <Commn> spidey : ya, with most asyncronous connections, a lot of upload will slow your downloads
02:51 <Commn> mmm usenet
02:51 <Commn> 600K/s download :)
02:53 <Lady> I've downloaded 21 songs in the last 8 mins
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03:00 <spidey> fonkay> could you do that on kazaa? =p
03:02 <Lady> i could
03:02 <Lady> but most of them would be something else
03:03 <Commn> you are using kazaalite right?
03:03 <Commn> or klite or whatever its called now
03:04 <spidey> no
03:04 <spidey> ares
03:04 <spidey> kazaa the suck
03:04 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-37-178-105.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
03:05 <Lady> i WAS using kazaa lite k++
03:05 <Lady> hey joe
03:05 <spidey> joe the suck
03:06 <Lady> joe my darlin'
03:09 <Lady> fine
03:10 <spidey> rofl
03:10 <DrJoeTron> hero
03:10 <DrJoeTron> :D
03:10 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
03:10 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 37.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Wind: W at 9 mph (14 km/h).
03:10 <DrJoeTron> went for food
03:13 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60016
03:13 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is 37.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Wind: WNW at 9 mph (14 km/h).
03:21  * Lucifer_arma yawns
03:21 <Lady> so how was freeciv after i left?
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> bad.  spidey went and gave all our technology to the ai for cities
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> next time my ally starts giving away technology, I'm going to invade him
03:22 <Lady> i did that.. for one city
03:22 <Lady> but then i gave it back
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> I think we need smarter ais
03:25 <DrJoeTron> fuck majoras mask
03:25 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTron: ?
03:25 <DrJoeTron>  i watched the zelda part 2 thing
03:25 <DrJoeTron> it was fine untill they mentioned it\
03:25 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:26 <Your_mom_arma> i still need to watch that, seen the first one
03:26 <DrJoeTron> "controversial" means "fucking sucked"
03:26 <Lady> i have no idea what you are talking about
03:26 <DrJoeTron> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/22/legend-of-zelda-video-retrospective-part-2/
03:27 <Your_mom_arma> luci, i think the programmers like to programm in jerk bots, if they get smarter, they'll just pollute us to death
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> I think we're being wusses now wanting to play dumb ais.  We've all gotten better, we should have better ais to compensate, eh?
03:28 <DrJoeTron> http://www.miguelcarrasco.net/miguelcarrasco/2006/10/10_biggest_comp.html 
03:28 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2006/10/21/fraggle-rock-is-back/
03:29 <Lady> I think I needed the dumb ais to make me feel smart
03:32 <ghableska> heh, microsoft bob
03:32 <Lady> I was only above anyone other than the ais once. and that was something abou0t military, and i was 2nd
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03:35 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's a certain amount of practice that helps.  :)  But for that, you obviously have to like playing the game
03:36 <Lady> i think i might if it fit on my screen properly
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> luckily you don't significantly lose skill over time, so you can play it occasionally and still improve every time you play
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> that is kind of weird that it doesn't fit on your screen
03:37 <Lady> crap vid card
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> personally I want to split it up into several windows so I can use my twinview to put the map fullscreen on one screen, and then put reports and stuff on another screen
03:38 <Lady> that would be useful
03:42 <Your_mom_arma> fonkay, try unlocking the taskbar hiding it and maximizing the app
03:43 <Lady> i couldn't get it any smaller
03:44 <mkzelda> new zelda game coming out in 27 days
03:44 <mkzelda> hah
03:44 <mkzelda> sorry
03:44 <mkzelda> wrong window
03:44 <mkzelda> <-- drunk
03:45 <Lady> anyone have creative halloween costume ideas?
03:46 <Lady> oh wait, i asked this last year.. /me searches forums
03:46 <mkzelda> i'll prolly be the creepy burger king man again
03:47 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:47 <mkzelda> thats such a great mask/costume, i've used it besides halloween
03:47 <mkzelda> ive gone to friends houses and stood outside their window in it
03:47 <Your_mom_arma> creepy
03:48 <mkzelda> ya
03:49 <DrJoeTron> well i approve of it
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> I just tried and the civclient has a minimum size
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> I had assumed that you ran at 800x600 because of some sort of visual impairment.  :/  You can get a vid card that'll give you higher resolution for pretty cheap,
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> you just have to ignore the gaming folks around here that think you're throwing away money if you don't buy the latest and greatest
03:50 <Commn> its not really the vid card
03:50 <Commn> its the monitor size ;p
03:51 <mkzelda> 8x agp nvidia 5200's are $28
03:51 <Commn> what good is 1280:920 on a 15inch? :P
03:51 <Your_mom_arma> luci, i set up a moniter to 800x 600 hid the taskbar and maximized freeciv, that unhid the chatprompt
03:51 <DrJoeTron> wow really?
03:51 <DrJoeTron> where?
03:51 <DrJoeTron> 28 bucks? thats pretty good
03:51 <DrJoeTron> wait, its a geforce 5
03:52 <DrJoeTron> geforce 2's are better than that
03:52 <mkzelda> i dont think so
03:52 <Your_mom_arma> if i upgrade, i'll get a serial port external video card if such a thing exists
03:52 <mkzelda> i use these a lot, they work quite well
03:52 <Your_mom_arma> my framerate will be devistating
03:52 <DrJoeTron> geforce 5' s were pretty useless
03:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I bought a TNT2 a few years back for $30 and it was an upgrade :)
03:52 <Lady> 1 it's my vid card, not my moniter
03:52 <DrJoeTron> they do exsist
03:53 <DrJoeTron> they are only for like research
03:53 <Lady> 2 stupid topic about halloween is 90% who's a boy/girl on armagetron
03:53 <Your_mom_arma> fonkay hide the taskbar and maximize freeciv, trust me it unhides the chat prompt
03:53 <Lady> oooh
03:53 <Lady> hmm, never thought of maximizing it, silly me
03:53 <Lucifer_arma> I believe it, Your_mom_arma's nobody's fool.  :)
03:54 <mkzelda> there are no girls on the internet
03:54 <DrJoeTron> i know just as many guys on the internet as there are girls
03:54 <mkzelda> haha
03:55 <mkzelda> IRL?
03:55 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:55 <DrJoeTron> its weird isnt it
03:55 <DrJoeTron> or i can confirm that they are really girls
03:55 <DrJoeTron> fonkay is a machine
03:55 <DrJoeTron> sooo
03:55 <DrJoeTron> :D
03:56 <Your_mom_arma> if i make a jack o lantern this year(very likely) i'll post a picture again
03:56 <Your_mom_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=35816#35816
03:56 <DrJoeTron> its gotta be totally metal
03:56 <Lucifer_arma> set diplomacy 1
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> that'll stop my allies from giving all our techs to ais
03:57 <Your_mom_arma> i want a normal paced civ game, yesterdays was sluggish
03:57 <Lucifer_arma> I've noticed that more players slow down the game
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> did you notice that we were never really waiting on the same player?  Every turn it was always somebody taking a long time, but never consistently the same somebody
03:58 <Lady> good mom
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> even I was thinking about having a turn timeout last night
03:59 <Lady> well, that's better that way isn't it?
03:59 <Your_mom_arma> i only had 1 turn where i catually needed to wait, the rest of it was just forgetting to hit done
03:59 <Your_mom_arma> catually hehe
03:59 <spidey> um
03:59 <Lady> it took me a few to realize that the falshing buton meant hurry the fuck up
03:59 <spidey> bullshit
03:59 <Lady> flashing button*
04:00 <spidey> i only gave like 1 or 2 techs i got from you guys
04:00 <spidey> the rest i researched on my own
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> um, your science went up only because of that
04:00 <spidey> so, i still got it
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> we would have still been at the same point for techs if you hadn't have done that
04:00 <spidey> nah
04:00 <spidey> i would have built more cities
04:00 <spidey> and invaded the AI
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's a strawman, my research was pretty high, and we still would have progressed fine
04:00 <spidey> i had the military power to do it
04:01 <spidey> i was ranked most militarized before i got the cities
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> but instead of having one turncoat ally giving us all the tech we would have done it as a team effort
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, next game I'm setting diplomacy 1
04:01 <spidey> then i'll use money
04:01 <spidey> =)
04:02 <Lucifer_arma> I'm also of the opinion that unless we do a ratio of 1:1 human:ais, and/or increase the ai intelligence, then the human alliances will be unstable with all the humans in them
04:02 <Your_mom_arma> can we get a game together, or do we have to wait for van and luke?
04:02 <Your_mom_arma> i say we try a smarter ai
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> if we'd have continued last night's game, the alliance was going to break down.  I was still trying to decide whether or not to invade spidey or the ai, and I think I'd have decided to hit spidey
04:03 <Lady> i say if i play again, we leave spidey at home
04:03 <spidey> invade me
04:03 <spidey> i hope you got over 200 units
04:03 <Lucifer_arma> nah, diplomacy 1 will prevent him from trading shit with the ais
04:03 <spidey> becuase in 20 turns i will =p
04:03 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:04 <Your_mom_arma> luci wanna start up a new game?
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: you have to get them somewhere useful.  I could hit your capital pretty easily and split up your empire (like I did to luke the other night)
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> and most of your cities weren't connected to your main body
04:04 <spidey> you think you could
04:04 <spidey> i had 2 destroyers 2 aplines and a couple auto tanks
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> I can start up a new game, but I need to do homework, so if I don't progress well on the homework I'd have to cut out
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: not in your capital.  You only had 2 riflemen in it
04:05 <spidey> that can be fixed easy, i've got a couple cities with more than 3
04:05 <spidey> even so
04:05 <spidey> crank taxes to 50% and lux to 50%
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> even so, it would have been a surprise attack
04:06 <spidey> ok
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> and the damage would have been done, you'd have been split
04:06 <spidey> then you'd have to deal with a AI half as strong as i was
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> whether or not I could keep the city after that is irrelevant
04:06 <spidey> and i was the strongest
04:06 <spidey> =p
04:06 <mkzelda> anyone wanna play dance dance revolution?
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> strongest is hard to gauge sometimes, I was producing new units quickly, and by the time I attacked I would have had two transports full of invasion force, 5 units per city, and 2 carriers full of bombers
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> not much, I know, but good for a defensive war
04:07 <spidey> maybe
04:07 <spidey> but i was rotating my production and was about ready to go into 100% military
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> and as long as you couldn't break the forts I was building on our border (which I was building to stop ai units from coming in, but saw the dual purpose), I could have continued an attack
04:07 <spidey> i'm not stupid, i knew one of you would try to attack me =p
04:08 <spidey> you mean that rifleman and marine?
04:08 <spidey> i got past them anyways...
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> I was weak in navy, that's for sure, and the continent made it so that you had to build navy on both sides because you couldn't put stuff in there
04:08 <Lady> I tried to attack, but i dind't know how
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:08 <spidey> lol
04:08 <Your_mom_arma> you have to break the treaties to be able to attack
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> if we start up a new game, I'd like to play on the world map again
04:08 <Lady> i did
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> you have to break them repeatedly until you're at war with somebody
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> then you just try to move a unit onto the other guy's unit
04:09 <Lady> i wanted to go out with a bang, but then i couldn't, so it pissed me off, so i left
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> heh, you wanted to go psycho on us and then quit?  (where have I heard that before?  )
04:09 <Lady> my rating was atrocious
04:09 <spidey> luke-jr?
04:09 <Lady> yes i did
04:09 <spidey> xD
04:10 <Lady> but i was actually trying to attack the ais, cause they were small
04:10 <spidey> =p
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, spidey, the problem with what you did was that it put the rest of us in a situation where we needed to invade you, and it didn't really matter if we won or lost
04:10 <Lucifer_arma> but if we wanted to at least rank well, we had to take cities from you somehow
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> that makes the alliance unstable.  Same thing happened the night before with Luke.
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> and the root of the problem seems to be dumb ais.  If we had smarter ais, I think it would be a lot different
04:11 <spidey> then someone needs to stop setting them to novice
04:11 <spidey> maybe someone who is affraid of war?
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> the idea is that we're supposed to be allying with each other against the ais so that the people who want to war can war the ais (and need to!)
04:12  * Your_mom_arma shifty eyes*
04:12 <spidey> the same someone that shouldn't play freeciv if he doesn't plan on war? =p
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> and the people that don't want to war can feed techs, and at the end of the game everybody ranks well
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> and everybody is satisfied.  The alliances don't fall apart (which always makes a game go shitty quickly)
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not saying everybody can win, or rank #1 in the scoring, that's silly
04:13 <Lady> on that note
04:14 <Lady> see ya, g'night
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> night fonkay
04:14 <Your_mom_arma> cya fonk
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04:14 <Lucifer_arma> I think we're all at a point where we need normal ai intelligence, which is two steps up from novice
04:15 <Your_mom_arma> want to try 1 normal ai vs the 3 of us?
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> and I think maybe city mindistance is a bad idea, maybe we should let them smallpox
04:15 <spidey> all i need is democracy
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, I learned last night that it's really hard to expand under democracy.  I think I'll do my expanding in monarchy or despotism.
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> I knew that in my head, but it didn't really sink in until I watched my cities being strangled for growth because they were supporting settlers
04:17 <Your_mom_arma> i switch to democracy then stay there
04:17 <spidey> nah it's not
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> you're a real democrat, mom
04:18 <spidey> i know how to run a democracy with freeciv
04:18 <spidey> i'm not sharing either xD
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> I'm starting favor communism in general in freeciv
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> I played a game where I had to switch to communism to fight, but I was behind technologically
04:18 <spidey> and watch as your cities revolt because someone saved alot of gold
04:18 <spidey> =p
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> after I took a few cities I started making up the difference (it was against 2 ais, me vs 2 ais)
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> after a bit longer I passed the ai
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> then the bastard betrayed me and wiped me out
04:19 <spidey> lol!
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> (I had allied with one of them)
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> worst part of it was I knew he ws going to and I was building an invasion force to go after him, but he did it about 5 turns earlier than I expected
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> anyways, if we play tonight, I want either europe or world map.
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> last night's map was neat, but I still dislike generated maps
04:21 <spidey> europe
04:21 <Your_mom_arma> the european one is too big
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'll take the britain map, but if we wind up with 4 or 5 players it's a bit small
04:22 <Your_mom_arma> i like to get around 10 cities , after that i start to lose controll of them
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, you just need to pratcice :)
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> can't really win with only 10 cities unless it's a very small map
04:23 <Your_mom_arma> thus why i dont want to play the big maps
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> even players that are fighting a war can build a spaceship before a 10-city civilization
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> there are two things about civilization size that probably matter to you
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> the first is that after a certain number of cities (which is near 10, usually higher, I think 15), new citizens in your cities will be angry rather than content
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> to counter than in Democracy, you need Temple->Colisseum->Cathedral (Cathedral is needed if you go over 8 workers in a city)
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> to counter that in Communism you just put 3 military units in each city
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> the second is that after you get industrialization, when you have some number of cities or more (which is also near 10), you generate more pollution than a smaller civilization
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> you counter that by building recycling centers, eco-friendly power plants (nuke and hydro), and having enough engineers to clean up pollution
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't keep your citizens happy or content, then an 8 point city may as well only be a 4 point city because 4 people won't work, they'll be entertainers instead
04:27 <spidey> also i don't want to play with spacerace on
04:27 <Lucifer_arma> why not?
04:28 <spidey> no difference between building a spaceship and beating the ai's peacefully
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> with diplomacy 1 you can't "beat the ais peacefully"
04:28 <spidey> you work hard fighting the ai's then the game's over like that cause someone slipped a spaceship in
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's not just a wargame, you know
04:29 <spidey> then if i play i won't be on the ai's team =p
04:29 <spidey> 'er
04:29 <spidey> humans to
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> because if you war you don't want one of your human allies to go and build a spaceship and win the game?
04:30 <spidey> because if i war i want it to last longer than 500AD
04:30 <spidey> not half-way threw the invade the game be over
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, research speed's a big player in that
04:31 <spidey> then lower it, starting with a shitload if techs is retarded anyways
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> most of us around here try not to war until we have modern techs to war with
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing that seems to matter, in my own view, is that you want research to always be ahead of city growth
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> if you have that, then it doesn't matter how much the difference is, city growth is what determines when you go to war
04:32 <spidey> doesn't
04:32 <spidey> 2 wellplaced cities at level 3 can fuel a war
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> a small war :)
04:33 <spidey> a war which others won't be ready for
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> 2 wellplaced cities at level 3 can't fuel a war against a 10-city civilization with 10 well-placed cities at level 5
04:33 <spidey> and i place my cities carefully
04:33 <spidey> yes it can
04:33 <Your_mom_arma> i place mine randomly
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> do you really, mom?
04:34 <Your_mom_arma> well, i try to place them near whales occasionally. but other then that
04:34 <spidey> you'd be suprised what 10 cannons and a few muskets can do
04:35 <spidey> either way, if diplo is 1 i'll largepox
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> largepox, heh.  That's what we all do these days :)
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> well mom, you should try to place them smarter :)
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> the best single square to build a city on is a plain with a shield
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> imo
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> plains with wheat are also good
04:37 <spidey> not really
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what's the best single square to build a city on?
04:37 <spidey> i'd give up placing a city on a good square if the resources around are good
04:37 <Your_mom_arma> should i build on top of the buffolo looking squares instead of next to them?
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> where you put your city matters because the city gets the square it's place on for free
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> you work it and you always work it, and you can never not work it
04:38 <spidey> so
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> so you think of it like that's the minimum production capability of the city
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> so if you put it on a hill or a mountain or a forest, the city will grow slowly at first because it won't producce much food
04:39 <spidey> at level 1 you get 2 quares
04:39 <spidey> the city and 1 extra
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> and you have to grow the city by hand to level 3 at least
04:39 <spidey> no
04:39 <spidey> if you have a fast growing city you can always take a settler and add it to the other city
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> yes, you can't rapture below 3.  You can put the city into rapture, but it won't increase population
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> that's true, you can do that.  :)
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> but we're only talking about the square you put the city on, nothing else
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> placing a city is complicated, you have to break it down into parts
04:40 <spidey> that's irrelavent in a game
04:40 <spidey> you place a city where it'll get maximum resources from the surrounding squares
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> so like spidey says, a level 1 city works the square it's on and 1 extra
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> if you use CMA, the CMA will determine that 1 extra, but you can do it by hand as well
04:41 <spidey> cma's are worthless
04:41 <Your_mom_arma> okay you guys lost me now
04:41 <spidey> they take what they don't need to
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> lost you how?  You can ignore spidey for now :)
04:41 <spidey> or you can listen to lucifer and place all your cities on 1 good square and have a shitty city :)
04:41 <Your_mom_arma> selecting"resources" by hand
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> you understand that a city works the squares?  that's the important part here
04:42 <Your_mom_arma> I knd of understand it, but i dont understand the specifics that would help me
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> ok, there's a breakdown on the freeciv site, but it basically goes like this:
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> food is food.  Shields are industrial production.  Trade is money.
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> every square has a rating of this form:  food/shields/trade
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> so a square that's 1/0/0 (plains) produces 1 food, 0 shields, and 0 trade
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> that's base production.  When you put roads and railroads and mines and irrigate and stuff then you increase parts of that.
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> A plain with a shield on it is usually 1/2/0
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> a forest with a buffalo in it is 1/4/0 iirc
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> a mountain with lead is 0/4/0 or 0/6/0
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> a plain with wheat is 3/0/0
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> so you have 1 worker for every point in your city, plus the city square.  So a 3 point city works 3 of the squares around it plus the square it's built on, for a total of 4 workers
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> you can use the city dialog where it has the map of the city to place the city workers.  You click one of the workers that's there to make hiim stop working, then click another square and he'll work that square
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> so when you produce enough food (60 is default), the city grows by one point
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> your city can also build one thing at a time, and it uses its shields to build it.  (you knew that part already, right?)
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> of course trade is money you make
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> there's more than that, there's also science production and I think 2 other things
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> you still following?
04:48 <Your_mom_arma> more or less
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> so when you place a city, you generally want enough food-producing squares near it so it'll grow on its own, and enough shield-producing squares so it can build shit
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> what works and what doesn't depends largely on what you want the city to build specifically and your own style of play
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> I personally like to build a city near 2-3 plains that can be irrigated and have the rest be hills because hills with mines are very productive
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> I find that building a city in the forest can make it very productive on its own, you get both food and shields from the squares you work
04:50 <Your_mom_arma> do you guys leave workers on auto settler?
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> I do
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> I build like 8-10 of them to service 5-6 cities, and I keep 1 or 2 on manual control for special projects
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> but the rest I let the game handle for me
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> special projects being things like connecting my cities with railroads and stuff like that :)
04:51 <spidey> i hate hills
04:51 <spidey> you build a city close to hills then attackers get extra defense
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, squares also have a second series of ratings
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> attack/defense/movement
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> right?  I think that's it...
04:52 <spidey> yea
04:52 <spidey> river squares count as roads
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> and as spidey points out, hills are good defenses
04:52 <spidey> but you also lose movement points
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> so when you need to fortify a border, for example, you'd prefer to fortify your units in mountains and hills over plaines and rivers
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> then units have attack/defense/movement ratings of their own
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> warriors are 1/1/1.  Musketeers are 4/4/1, etc.
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> you probably knew that already, I'll bet :)
04:53 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
04:53 <spidey> best city defense is a city on a mountain(not hill) with city walls and SDI and that anti-nuke defense
04:54 <spidey> you'll get double defense from land units and triple from air
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> so the square you build a city on also contributes to the city's defense
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> so if you expect to get invaded, you'd probably prefer to build the city on a hill or something instead of plains
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> see where it gets complicated?  :)
04:55 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
04:55 <spidey> oh yea
04:55 <spidey> don't build on grasslands
04:55 <Your_mom_arma> why?
04:55 <spidey> a clump of them anyways
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> now we get to why spidey and I disagree on the best single square to build a city :)
04:55 <spidey> they only produce 2 food
04:55 <spidey> nothing else
04:55 <spidey> so if you build a city close to alot of grassland
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> if you build on a clump of grasslands, you should also put units out to create a forward defense for the city, because the city can't defend itself otherwise
04:56 <spidey> that city will only be good for size
04:56 <spidey> size and tax
04:56 <spidey> roads of course
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> actually, spidey's right, and because of that, I like to have 1 or 2 cities like that
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> then I'll just keep building settlers from them and use them to populate the world
04:56 <spidey> erm
04:56 <spidey> any square will do for that...
04:56 <Your_mom_arma> spidey would that kind of city be good for science?
04:57 <spidey> yes
04:57 <spidey> if you got the trade high enough
04:57 <spidey> solution
04:57 <spidey> use caravans
04:57 <spidey> =p
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> science is determined by a combination of trade and shields, iirc, where trade affects it more than shields
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> and then you have science improvements.  Library->University->Some lab or other
04:57 <spidey> here's a real science city
04:58 <spidey> 1 build by ocean
04:58 <spidey> 2 build harbor
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04:58 <spidey> 3 build mini offshore thing
04:58 <spidey> 3 build roads on the land
04:58 <spidey> s/3/4
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's 2 3's
04:58 <spidey> then
04:58 <spidey> build libraries and universities
04:58 <spidey> then in that same city
04:58 <spidey> build that big ass telescope thing
04:58 <spidey> it'll boost science 100% 
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> the observatory?
04:59 <spidey> yes
04:59 <spidey> and build aquduct
04:59 <spidey> so the city can grow
04:59 <spidey> and use all the squares
04:59 <spidey> for maximum science
04:59 <spidey> you could easily get 50 science points off a city like that at max size
05:00 <spidey> not to mention
05:00 <spidey> it'll be a high producer
05:00 <spidey> you get 1 sheild per ocean
05:00 <spidey> 2 with whales
05:00 <spidey> because of the mini offshore thingy
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> so you also want a mix of inland and coastal cities :)
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> basically, if you get attacked, you need city walls in every city, and later you need SAM and SDI
05:01 <spidey> i've played civilization2 years and years ago
05:01 <spidey> i used to play it a hella lot before i got off dialup
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> a costal city also needs coastal defense, which makes defending coastal cities more expesive
05:01 <spidey> hrm
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> and try to place your capital away from the coast, make the bastard land first :)
05:01 <spidey> actually not if you get that trade wonder
05:02 <spidey> it cuts all the improvements that cost 1 gold
05:02 <spidey> so you can build everything that costs 1
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, it also costs to build the thing.  TCO = initial expense + ongoing expense
05:02 <spidey> besides decent placed coastal city makes up for its own gold
05:02 <spidey> trade
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> that's true, I'm not saying don't build any coastal cities, just that you don't necessarily want all coastal cities
05:03 <spidey> it's a wonder
05:03 <spidey> it's free
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> you have to be a coastal city to build harbor and offshore platforms, so I figure if you're going to have any ocean squares in your city radius, build on the coast
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise you have squares you can't improve
05:06 <spidey> [|FA|STIFF_NINJA] magic mushrooms
05:06 <spidey> [-_-Ruger-_- <- lol] watch tv in a teepee
05:06 <spidey> [-_-Ruger-_- <- lol] LOL
05:06 <spidey> [Blooregard q. kazoo] CAN YOU GET ME A TEEPEE
05:06 <spidey> [-_-Ruger-_- <- lol] go build your own nueb 
05:06 <spidey> haha
05:06 <spidey> that's quotes from one of my soldat servers o.o
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> so, I think we should go to a 1:1 ratio of humans:ais and set the ais at easy
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> I think we should fool with increasing the number of ais more than their intelligence
05:14 <spidey> good idea
05:14 <spidey> then they kill themselves before we can =p
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> if we have more than 4 human players, then I think we should consider having no ais and doing humans vs humans
05:15 <DrJoeTron> hey
05:15 <DrJoeTron> i want to make a new avatar
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, increasing their intelligence makes them less likely to cripple each other :)
05:15 <spidey> make me one to!
05:15 <DrJoeTron> i will
05:15 <DrJoeTron> what do you want?
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'm looking to see if we can create specific ais, too.  That's be useful on scenario maps
05:15 <DrJoeTron> i ended up making invaders a little while ago
05:15 <spidey> hrm
05:15 <spidey> be creative
05:15 <spidey> and make it say spidey =p
05:15 <DrJoeTron> give me something
05:16 <spidey> here's my current one
05:16 <spidey> [img]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b16/00fireball/spidey.jpg[/img]
05:16 <spidey> 'er
05:16 <spidey> http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b16/00fireball/spidey.jpg
05:16 <DrJoeTron> i got it
05:16 <DrJoeTron> thats a sig
05:16 <DrJoeTron> nature
05:16 <spidey> oops
05:16 <spidey> wait
05:17 <spidey> gotta find which server it's on
05:17 <spidey> lol
05:17 <Your_mom_arma> joe want me to draw yours?
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> so, can we get a fourth player?
05:17 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/avatars/haveaniceday.gif
05:17 <DrJoeTron> if you can animate it, yes please
05:17 <spidey> that's my current one
05:17 <DrJoeTron> ok
05:17 <DrJoeTron> do you want me to make you one ma?
05:18 <Your_mom_arma> what did you want?
05:18 <DrJoeTron> i feel like spending tonight making them
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> make me one that's not animated that has a dinosaur wearing a hat
05:18 <spidey> lol
05:18 <DrJoeTron> ok
05:18 <spidey> or
05:18 <DrJoeTron> yeah
05:18 <DrJoeTron> make me one of that mom
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> or make me one that has the dinosaur with a hat, and animate it with all of the avatars I've used :)
05:18 <DrJoeTron> i got one for lucifer
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> if I can find the old avatars anyway
05:18 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/avatars/2.gif
05:19 <spidey> maybe something like that
05:19 <spidey> =p
05:19 <spidey> that's my mbc one o.o
05:19 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma il make a fun one for you
05:19 <DrJoeTron> do you mind on the hat?
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> not really :)
05:19 <DrJoeTron> good "D
05:19 <DrJoeTron> i have a stock picture of a dinosaur with a hat
05:19 <spidey> here joe
05:19 <DrJoeTron> thats why im asking
05:19 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/avatars/3.png
05:19 <spidey> =p
05:20 <DrJoeTron> i got an idea
05:20 <DrJoeTron> i'll make a bulk avatar for the 3 of us
05:20 <DrJoeTron> with a dinosaur wearing a hat
05:20 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.com/avatars/cookies.gif
05:20 <spidey> xD
05:21 <DrJoeTron> how big should it be
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> we should probably go be smegheads a bit more before revealing our identities, though
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> you know, build up a reputation for being the most annoying clan around that's also really hard to beat
05:21 <spidey> huh?
05:22 <DrJoeTron> awww ok
05:22 <spidey> wtf is he talking about? o.o
05:22 <DrJoeTron> well il make it now at least
05:22 <DrJoeTron> 100x100 ok or bigger?
05:23 <spidey> make it 10000x1000
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> it'll make the unmasking more fun.  :)  People will post with "It's *you* guys?!?!?" and we can respond with "Yep, clans are annoying, aren't they?"
05:23 <DrJoeTron> :D
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> so, is there a fourth player for freeciv?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_, GodTodd ?
05:24 <spidey> who's the first and second?
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> I thought it was you, me, and Your_mom_arma 
05:24 <spidey> and 3rd
05:24 <spidey> k
05:24 <spidey> hurry up though
05:25 <spidey> i wanna sleep tomorrow night so i can get started on school work
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> I'd kinda like a 4th player, don't know if I'm interested otherwise.  It's "play freeciv" or "do serious stuff", and I'm leaning towards "serious stuff"
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> so we need enough players so I can do "serious stuff" while playing :)
05:25 <spidey> well
05:25 <spidey> how about
05:25 <spidey> us 3
05:26 <spidey> and get someone from the master list
05:26 <spidey> then if someone  gets the urge to defect we'll have someone to kill
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> you mean get a pro player?!?!?
05:27 <spidey> no i mean andrew
05:27 <spidey> rofl
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'm already dropping into the lower half of the players here, last thing I need is someone who knows wtf they're doing
05:27 <spidey> i know what i'm doing =/
05:28 <spidey> actually
05:28 <spidey> if you do that
05:28 <spidey> get the war client
05:28 <spidey> i want global warming disabled
05:29 <spidey> warserver *
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> war client?  I think I tried to build it at one point
05:30 <spidey> hrm
05:30 <spidey> i could put a server on my vps
05:30 <spidey> aslong as we don't use more than 15gig bandwith -o
05:30 <spidey> =p
05:31 <DrJoeTron> im gonna make 150px
05:31 <Your_mom_arma> i drew i triceritops with a top hat
05:34 <spidey> *hey
05:34 <spidey> this actually looks like a truck
05:34 <spidey> xD
05:41 <DrJoeTron> google image fucking rules
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, fullscreen mode is interesting
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> too bad I can't break up the panes, though.  I'd really like to have an entire monitor dedicated to the map
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> ok, can we get a fourth player?
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: GodTodd ?
05:46 <spidey> DrJoeTron, Your_mom_arma 
05:46 <DrJoeTron> ones wearing a fedora
05:46 <DrJoeTron> the other a beanie
05:46 <spidey> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4710/untitledhy9.jpg
05:46 <spidey> DrJoeTron, look at that =p
05:47 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
05:47 <spidey> xD
05:47 <spidey> i'ma put willie bars on it!
05:50 <DrJoeTron> hey
05:51 <DrJoeTron> do we want DWH in it? or just dinosaurs with hats
05:51 <DrJoeTron> let me rephrase that
05:51 <DrJoeTron> do we want text?
05:53 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma Your_mom_arma done
05:54 <Your_mom_arma> haha
05:54 <DrJoeTron> think i should change it a little bit?
05:54 <DrJoeTron> the animation is a bit jittery
05:55 <DrJoeTron> but not bad for under 20 minutes
06:00 <DrJoeTron> a much more annoying one
06:03 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: what
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv?
06:03 <luke-jr_> not tonight
06:04 <DrJoeTron> which one should i use
06:11 <Your_mom_arma> i had so many engineers and settlers moving in a local civ game that it crashed
06:12 <luke-jr_> lol
06:12 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: don't forget to make your turns 1tpd
06:12 <Your_mom_arma> luke, i may be giving up on that
06:13 <Your_mom_arma> its taken 2 weeks to do 2 minutes of play
06:13 <luke-jr_> lol
06:13 <luke-jr_> so?
06:14 <luke-jr_> its also taken less time each day
06:14 <spidey> haha
06:14 <luke-jr_> next time we should start w/ more units ;)
06:14 <luke-jr_> anyway, ttyl gnight
06:15 <spidey> DrJoeTron, i love this one
06:15 <DrJoeTron> huh?
06:15 <spidey> sec
06:15 <spidey> it's cool
06:15 <spidey> DrJoeTron, http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7569/untitled2ag0.jpg
06:16 <DrJoeTron> ha
06:16 <spidey> i love this thing xd
06:17 <spidey> i'ma rename the drop kicker to spiry and the getting drop kicked to ghableska
06:18 <Your_mom_arma> hey joe, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=9481
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> I think we should start with 0 techs
06:19 <Your_mom_arma> i could live with that
06:23 <DrJoeTron> god damn it
06:23 <DrJoeTron> why
06:23 <DrJoeTron> why 
06:23 <DrJoeTron> why
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> 0 techs, 3 settlers, 5-6 workers, and 4 explorers
06:25 <DrJoeTron> sum this up for me
06:25 <DrJoeTron> i dont know what the hell 2020 is trying to say
06:25 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:25 <DrJoeTron> because he just vomits on the keyboard and posts it
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> I need a summary too
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> I read it 3 times and didn't understand any of it
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> is he frustrated we don't have any tournaments, still?  Even though there's always like 3 going on?
06:27 <spidey> haha
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> maybe with less stupid clans we'd have higher player retention, eh?
06:27 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
06:27 <spidey> remember that pick?
06:28 <spidey> i made the guy land on the other guys head
06:30 <DrJoeTron> i think its time for dwh
06:32 <spidey> dwh?
06:33 <Your_mom_arma> its a new game, yould hate it
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> I think DrJoeTron needs to play freeciv
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> I can play a 3-player game if we start with 0 techs :)
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> and the units I mentioned.  I just started a local game in and 3 turns I'd knocked out two of the nearest ai's cities
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, not 3 turns, but pretty quickly
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> and I built like 5 cities of my own.  It was going pretty quickly
06:35 <Your_mom_arma> i'll play
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> I think we should do a lot of ais and quit chickenshitting over them
06:36 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=101421#101421
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
06:37 <spidey> eh?
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv?
06:37 <spidey> awe
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> europe map?  With maybe a lot of ais?  ;)
06:37 <spidey> i was having fun making people drop kick each other
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:38 <spidey> i made this one guy kick a hole in some blocks
06:38 <spidey> then the blocks knocked the other guys head off
06:39 <DrJoeTron> can we just ban 2020?
06:39 <spidey> ok coming
06:39 <DrJoeTron> seriously
06:39 <DrJoeTron> he's retarded
06:39 <Your_mom_arma> start calling him sealab 2021
06:40 <DrJoeTron> ok guys so
06:40 <DrJoeTron> i found this message board
06:40 <DrJoeTron> for furry porn
06:40 <DrJoeTron> and
06:40 <DrJoeTron> it says tourney on it
06:40 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:40 <DrJoeTron> why dont we have
06:40 <DrJoeTron> a 
06:40 <DrJoeTron> tourney?
06:40 <DrJoeTron> if we work
06:40 <DrJoeTron> togehter
06:40 <DrJoeTron> we can get eight 
06:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
06:40 <DrJoeTron> thousand people
06:40 <spidey> server ip?
06:40 <DrJoeTron> and solve world fucking hunger
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, I guess I should start the server
06:40 <DrJoeTron> by making our
06:40 <spidey> rofl
06:40 <DrJoeTron> own yif tourney
06:41 <spidey> no we can't
06:41 <spidey> tron doesn't have 8 thousand players
06:41 <DrJoeTron> well
06:41 <DrJoeTron> if
06:41 <DrJoeTron> we
06:41 <DrJoeTron> work togeth
06:41 <DrJoeTron> er
06:41 <DrJoeTron> im leaving durka and ady incharge
06:41 <spidey> so each person will count as 500 people?
06:41 <Your_mom_arma> www.davefancella.com port 5555
06:42 <Your_mom_arma> joe, you have no idea how bad his formatting looks on widescreen
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> ok, it's started now
06:42 <Lucifer_arma> same bat time, same bat channel
06:42 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
06:42 <DrJoeTron> seriously
06:42 <DrJoeTron> we have too much fucking heart around here
06:42 <DrJoeTron> ttime for be dicks
06:42 <DrJoeTron> major ones
06:55 <DrJoeTron> :/
06:55 <Your_mom_arma> ?
06:56 <DrJoeTron> i feel like a gossipy house wife
06:56 <DrJoeTron> and we need to go to durka durka land
06:56 <DrJoeTron> with dwh
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09:19 <Your_mom_arma> well i wasnt going to betray spidey but he was ready to betray me
09:19 <Your_mom_arma> and i dont like to war in free civ so i just gave up
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> you sure he was going to betray you?
09:20 <Your_mom_arma> not positive but i had a strong vibe that he was
09:21 <spidey_> um
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> he always gives off that vibe, though
09:21 <spidey_> hello
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> but he's generally trustworthy as an ally
09:21 <spidey_> unless i think you're gonna attack me =p
09:21 <spidey_> i thought that about mom because he wouldn't accept tech trades of anykind
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> he probably doesn't want you to give it all to the ai again
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> same reason I'm trying to hold back
09:22 <spidey_> if i wanted to i could take atleast 15 cities right now
09:22 <Your_mom_arma> well if theres a big war and im the only one with guns im not going to go handing them out especially when im horrible and war
09:22 <spidey_> ...
09:22 <Your_mom_arma> when im horrible at war
09:22 <spidey_> i have guns
09:22 <spidey_> 40+
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> if you've got gunpowder and I have gunpowder, then so does spidey
09:23 <Your_mom_arma> about ten turns after i got them
09:23 <spidey_> so?
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> heh, probably when I got them.  I didn't trade them to him :)
09:23 <spidey_> ive got a 18 production cities
09:23 <spidey_> no i researched mine
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> if the ais become a serious threat I'll be happy to start allying, but I'm off by myself, other than techs there's no reason for me to ally yet
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> and I've got good enough research to trade for techs right now
09:23 <spidey_> how the hell would plan to betray you
09:24 <spidey_> when i got 3 nutural ai's waiting for a reason to kill me
09:24 <spidey_> that makes no sense
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> just come back, and if spidey does betray you, then quit and we'll make you a hard ai
09:24 <Your_mom_arma> alright
09:24 <spidey_> i don't think you get the point
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> he is usually a pretty trustworthy ally though :)
09:24 <spidey_> i can't offord to
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> unless you're vanhayes and warmongering, anyway
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, and really powerful
09:25 <spidey_> well
09:25 <spidey_> hayes was just trashing everything
09:25 <spidey_> so i stopped it =p
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> I betrayed him too, don't forget
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> same reasons, so I relate :)
09:28 <spidey_> lawl
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12:45 <spidey_> #night
12:45 <armabot> Good night spidey_!
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20:12 <Vanhayes> #ping
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20:25 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: UltraVioletEyes has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 3 days 12 hours 42 minutes ago.
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20:35 <Van-hayes> #ping
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21:20 <Lady> hi
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21:24 <DrJoeTron> who let you in here
21:25 <Fonkay> beats me
21:25 <Fonkay> Someone crazy once gave me the address, and you haven't been able to shake me since
21:26 <DrJoeTron> :/
21:31 <Fonkay> shouldn't you be at school?
21:31 <DrJoeTron> skipped math
21:32 <Fonkay> bad kid
21:33 <DrJoeTron> im a rebel
21:33 <Fonkay> I'm trying to think of good music to DL to find some good CD's to buy
21:33 <DrJoeTron> whats your preference
21:33 <Fonkay> i dunno, varied
21:33 <DrJoeTron> varied to
21:34 <Fonkay> right now, i have some fergie, some malcolm mclaren the fray, KT and weird al.. but I'm going blank otherwise
21:34 <Fonkay> boyfriend just bought me the killers and beck, but he has them in hfx
21:35 <DrJoeTron> ah
21:35 <Fonkay> oh, and chaiyya chaiyya because i love that song
21:35 <DrJoeTron> the verve is alright in moderation
21:36 <Fonkay> I'm just taste testing right now
21:36 <DrJoeTron> rhcp :D
21:36 <Fonkay> oh yes.
21:36 <DrJoeTron> taste testing eh
21:36 <DrJoeTron> ive got this ska band from madrid spain
21:36 <Fonkay> i was gonna DL some apc, but i have all those CD's alrready
21:36 <Fonkay> ska? I'm a bit scared of ska
21:37 <Fonkay> it's a hit or miss kinda style
21:37 <DrJoeTron> yeah i agree
21:37 <DrJoeTron> i like these guys
21:37 <DrJoeTron> i can send you their live album
21:37 <DrJoeTron> which is a greatest hits album
21:38 <DrJoeTron> i have the discography
21:38 <Fonkay> what are they called?
21:38 <DrJoeTron> Ska-p
21:38 <DrJoeTron> i can upload them for you if you'd like
21:39 <Fonkay> good song?
21:39 <DrJoeTron> pretty much the entire album is great
21:39 <DrJoeTron> its a mix of latin/ska
21:39 <DrJoeTron> it works really well
21:39 <Fonkay> it's just fater for me to DL online
21:40 <Fonkay> faster*
21:40 <Fonkay> just looking for a title
21:40 <Fonkay> just to taste test
21:40 <DrJoeTron> hmm
21:41 <DrJoeTron> here il send you a song
21:41 <Fonkay> I'm downloading lola, cause that's what i named my car
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21:45 <DrJoeTron> here my dear
21:46 <Fonkay> listening tiny dancer right now
21:47 <Fonkay> watched almost famous recently
21:47 <DrJoeTron> haha
21:47 <DrJoeTron> it always sounds liek he's saying tony danza
21:48 <DrJoeTron> download that song :p
21:48 <Fonkay> i am
21:48 <Fonkay> listening to it now
21:48 <Fonkay> latin ska is.... odd
21:48 <DrJoeTron> how did you get it so fast?
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21:48 <Fonkay> I DL'd it not from your link
21:48 <DrJoeTron> ok
21:49 <DrJoeTron> i was about to call liar on you
21:49 <Fonkay> i DL at like 150-200 kb/s
21:49 <Fonkay> so it was easier
21:49 <DrJoeTron> i prefer the live version of that song more
21:49 <DrJoeTron> its a little faster 
21:49 <Fonkay> have you ever heard the song chaiyya chaiyya?
21:50 <DrJoeTron> i dont think so
21:50 <Fonkay> i think that's what i have, cause theres clapping
21:50 <Fonkay> I'll see if g'talk works now
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21:52 <Fonkay> i love this song.. this is the soundtrack version
21:52 <Fonkay> now if i can only remember the movie it's from
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21:53 <Fonkay> inside man, there we go
21:53 <DrJoeTron> radiohead isnt bad either
21:53 <Fonkay> yea, older stuff is good
21:53 <DrJoeTron> they have newer stuff?
21:54 <DrJoeTron> i want that new album damn it
21:54 <DrJoeTron> hail to the theif was ok, but it was sOOO depressing
21:55 <DrJoeTron> ok ive heard this song
21:56 <Fonkay> yea
21:56 <Fonkay> addictive
21:57 <DrJoeTron> haha cool shuffle mode is being nice to me today
21:57 <Fonkay> i meant older stuff, 2003 is new enough
21:57 <Fonkay> i prefer ok computer
21:57 <DrJoeTron> everyone does
21:57 <DrJoeTron> well, cept for fucking fitter happier
21:57 <Fonkay> or the bends
21:57 <DrJoeTron> i personaly did like pablo honey
21:57 <DrJoeTron> and kid a had some moments
22:04 <MaZuffeR> Fonkay: try DLing Fairytale gone bad by Sunrise avenue, great song
22:04 <MaZuffeR> i don't think you can get the cd in canada though
22:05 <DrJoeTron> if there is an internet
22:05 <DrJoeTron> there is a way
22:06 <Fonkay> except for adult swim stuff
22:06 <DrJoeTron> yeah but thats streaming
22:15 <Fonkay> I'm so absent minded
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22:33 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
22:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
22:35 <DrJoeTron> ruh roh
22:35 <DrJoeTron> #ping
22:35 <armabot> pong
22:35 <Fonkay> #weather New Glasgow, Nova Scotia
22:35 <armabot> Fonkay: The current temperature in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia is 50.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Wind: W at 6 mph (10 km/h).
22:36 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, you missed last turn...
22:36 <luke-jr_work> I think
22:36 <Vanhayes> oh well
22:37 <Fonkay> #G 50 f to c
22:37 <luke-jr_work> better not to wait till the last minute =p
22:37 <armabot> Fonkay: 50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10 degrees Celsius
22:42 <madmax|pt> #weather lppt
22:42 <armabot> madmax|pt: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 64.4°F (9:30 PM WEST on October 23, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 59.0°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa. 
22:43 <madmax|pt> #weather lisbon
22:43 <armabot> madmax|pt: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 9:30 PM WEST; Rain. High:69 ° F. / 21 ° C.; Overcast. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Rain. Low:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Rain. High:70 ° F. / 21 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.;
22:59 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
22:59 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. Showers or periods of drizzle beginning early this evening. Amount 2 to 4 mm. Low plus 4.; Tuesday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. High 9. Tuesday night..cloudy with 30 percent chance of showers. Wind (1 more message)
22:59 <Vanhayes> #more
22:59 <armabot> Vanhayes: becoming west 20 km/h overnight. Low plus 3.; Wednesday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. High 8.;
23:00 <Fonkay> why does mine have so little info?
23:00 <Fonkay> #weather new glasgow
23:00 <armabot> Fonkay: The current temperature in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia is 50.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Wind: W at 6 mph (10 km/h).
23:01 <Fonkay> #weather halifax
23:01 <Vanhayes> lots there
23:01 <armabot> Fonkay: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.62in / 1003hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. Showers beginning this evening. Showers or periods of drizzle overnight. Amount 2 to 4 mm. Wind becoming northeast 20 km/h near midnight. Low plus 5.; Tuesday - Cloudy with sunny periods and 40 percent chance of showers. (1 more message)
23:01 <Fonkay> #more
23:01 <armabot> Fonkay: High 11. Tuesday night..cloudy. Wind becoming west 30 km/h overnight. Low 6.; Wednesday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. High 9.;
23:01 <Vanhayes> most candian cities have alot of info for some reason
23:01 <Vanhayes> #wethaer Moncton
23:01 <Vanhayes> #weather Moncton
23:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Moncton, New Brunswick is 48.2°F (5:00 PM ADT on October 23, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.61 in 1003 hPa. 
23:02 <Vanhayes> well, some do
23:02 <Fonkay> warmer here
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23:03 <Vanhayes> ya its supposed to rain for most of this week here
23:05 <Fonkay> ick
23:05 <Fonkay> rain + cold = evil
23:06 <Vanhayes> well rain + cold but not cold enough for snow = extreme evil
23:07 <Fonkay> yea, i hate that we don't get a proper fall around here.. I need to move to like NY or maine or something
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23:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey_: ?
23:33 <Vanhayes> #last --from spidey_ 
23:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: [12:44:55] <spidey_> #night
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23:43 <mkzelda> #weather raleigh
23:43 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Raleigh, MS is 62.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Sunny. Humidity: 29%. Wind: N at 10 mph (16 km/h).
23:43 <mkzelda> #weather raleigh, NC
23:43 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 53.4°F (5:43 PM EDT on October 23, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa. 
23:45 <mkzelda> i wonder why missouri would have the default raleigh when it is the capitol of nc
23:45 <mkzelda> alphabetical order
23:49 <Commn> #wunder 48152
23:49 <armabot> Commn: The current temperature in 8 Mile and Middlebelt, Farmington Hills, Michigan is 42.3°F (5:47 PM EDT on October 23, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.12 in 986.0 hPa. 
23:49 <Commn> cold today
23:50 <mkzelda> anyone use samba?
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