#armagetron from July 2016
Jul 02 14:40:30 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 02 14:40:30 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 02 14:40:30 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 02 14:41:05 2016 Tcl interface unloaded Jul 02 14:41:05 2016 Python interface unloaded Jul 02 14:42:01 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 02 14:42:01 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 02 14:42:01 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 02 14:42:52 2016 * nelg-bot (~nelg-bot@unaffiliated/amaroknelg/bot/nelg-bot) has joined #armagetron Jul 02 17:10:26 2016 * Overrated (~over__@216.252.30.60) has joined #armagetron Jul 02 17:35:44 2016
Whiny child was placated by letting her buy(not eat) one of every kind of sweet at the sweets buffet. Jul 02 17:36:43 2016
I CAN SEE NO WAY OF THIS GOING WRONG Jul 02 17:48:57 2016
hahaha Jul 02 17:50:34 2016 * sinewav has quit (Quit: couldn't handle it and left) Jul 02 18:02:47 2016 * wrtlprnft has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Jul 02 18:24:49 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 02 18:26:17 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200F0D7C22FF506449A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 02 18:36:25 2016
Heh, just wait until whiny child has become lazy teenager Jul 02 19:18:10 2016 * G5 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) Jul 02 19:30:09 2016 * Guest57901823 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 02 19:30:28 2016 * Long_Shoota (~LS@cpc76140-clif11-2-0-cust43.12-4.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 02 19:31:37 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 02 20:00:59 2016
hey uh Jul 02 20:01:00 2016
devs Jul 02 20:01:12 2016
how come armagetron takes RAM but never seems to release it Jul 02 20:12:19 2016
Lucifer_arma? Jul 02 20:16:08 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200F0D7C22FF506449A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 02 20:28:10 2016
Z-Man? Jul 02 21:54:52 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p4FC16B12.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 02 21:54:53 2016 * Z-Man is now known as Guest5653 Jul 02 21:54:53 2016 * Guest5653 has quit (Killed (morgan.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 02 21:54:53 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 02 23:17:51 2016 * Overrated has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 02 23:20:11 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 02 23:49:20 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 02 23:56:08 2016 * G5 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Jul 03 00:53:19 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200F0D7C22FF506449A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 02:30:05 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p5B34E9B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 02:30:05 2016 * Z-Man is now known as Guest46113 Jul 03 02:30:05 2016 * Guest46113 has quit (Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 03 02:30:05 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 03 03:32:12 2016
AmarokNelg: are you using debug mode and the debug memmanager? That one indeed never frees anything, it recycles memory, though. Jul 03 03:33:05 2016
AmarokNelg: Because Arma is a pirate, and it just simply doesn't give up what it's already taken. Jul 03 03:33:37 2016
If you want it to give that precious RAM up, you need to Paypal USD200 to each developer who has ever contributed to Armagetron. Jul 03 03:34:09 2016
You can also simplify things by just sending me the USD 3000 or so. I'll make sure the others get their fair share. Promise! Jul 03 03:34:45 2016
I can't vouch for the hack branches, but our core should be pretty much memory leak free. The debug memmanager and the occasional valgrind run say so. I'm personally quite anal about those things. Jul 03 03:35:09 2016
hey, don't intrude on my get-rich-quick scheme here Jul 03 03:35:20 2016
that's, like, really rude Jul 03 03:36:34 2016
'Course, if you have a scenario where arma takes more and more memory, do tell. There can be cases where buffers grow larger over time, for example, if we forget to clean them up. Jul 03 03:36:36 2016
I mean, we've been back and forth on this one, and you've totally put me in my place, so much so that I feel quite confident when I say that Chrome is a huge memory-sucking asshat Jul 03 03:38:06 2016
but man, this is AmarokNelg, and I can easily bleed him/her for a few bucks before saying "Haha! Arma doesn't leak memory, you git!" Jul 03 03:38:12 2016
and you're totally interfering with that! Jul 03 03:38:45 2016
Lucifer_arma: typing on the phone where I can't see what others write while I type :/ Jul 03 03:39:12 2016
that's ok, I'm probably currently exhibiting multiple personalities Jul 03 03:40:02 2016
in more serious tones, I'm actually not sure what AmarokNelg is even talking about. There's absolutely no memory that Armagetron uses that isn't released when Armagetron quits. So, what, are you trying to Skype with some Russian princess while you're playing arma? Jul 03 03:40:14 2016
What are you doing while playing arma? Seriously! Jul 03 03:41:26 2016
My complaint about Chrome stands, because it does eat memory. Really, I can play arma all day long and and be able to browse porn sites in a different window, but poor old Chrome struggles when the porn sites are in its windows Jul 03 03:41:58 2016
Poor Chrome. Millions of dollars sunk into it, still leaks memory. They should've called it the Titanic. Jul 03 03:42:53 2016
Dammit, family woke up. Cya! Jul 03 03:43:56 2016 * sinewav (~Thunderbi@ip68-7-71-95.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 03:48:03 2016 * sinewav has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 03 03:56:04 2016 * Lucifer_arma has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 03 03:57:13 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 03 03:57:19 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200F0D7C22FF506449A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 03:59:35 2016 * Lucifer_arma (~Lucifer_a@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 08:45:16 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 10:58:34 2016 * nelg-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Jul 03 10:59:14 2016 * nelg-bot (~nelg-bot@unaffiliated/amaroknelg/bot/nelg-bot) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 12:03:14 2016 * Nikon_ (~Nikon_@209.152.96.210) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 12:19:27 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 12:44:43 2016 * sinewav (~Thunderbi@ip68-7-71-95.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 13:10:36 2016
!commands Jul 03 13:10:36 2016
sinewav: Commands: !help, !commands (!list), !about, !calc, !google, !weather, !dict, !translate (!traducir), !scramble, !typo, !find, !lastseen, !servers, !slap, !md5, !sha1, !base64, !debase64, !bf, !say, !me, !ladle, !8ball, !date, !readtimer, !timer, !time, !generate, !copycat Jul 03 13:10:37 2016
It is Commands:. Jul 03 13:10:48 2016
!help scramble Jul 03 13:10:49 2016
sinewav: !scramble
-- Scrambles a given word or phrase. Jul 03 13:11:02 2016
!scramble one two three Jul 03 13:11:02 2016
sinewav: noe Jul 03 13:11:22 2016
.commands Jul 03 13:11:26 2016
]commands Jul 03 13:11:27 2016
sinewav: d, d, roulette, d, r, roulette, kek, dicks, good, nicks, r, roulette, seen, roulette, r, !, !repeat100, /me, 8ball, 93a, a, aawiki, abs, abstain, abstains, acronym, action, add, addsabutton, addup, aeromax, aids, aiias, aka, alert, aliasb, alot, andre, announce, announce add, announce list, announce remove, any, apple, appless, apply, appreciate, apropos, armaconfig, as, at, (19 more messages) Jul 03 13:11:40 2016
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]more Jul 03 13:11:45 2016
sinewav: avgprc, ay, ayyyyy, b%, b&, b&-, b&random, badbot, baddude, badequals, baka, ban, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, bc,blocks, bc,calc, bc,calcd, bc,calcdiff, bc,calcgh, bc,calckh, bc,calcmh, bc,calcth, bc,calcᵇh, bc,calcᵐh, bc,diff, bc,difficulty, bc,eligius, bc,eligius,calc, bc,eligiuseu, bc,eligiuseu,calc, bc,eligiuslastfoundby, bc,eligiusra, bc,eligiussu, bc,eligiusti, bc,eligiusus, (18 more messages) Jul 03 13:11:49 2016
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sinewav: bc,eligiusus,calc, bc,estimate, bc,estimateblocksleft, bc,gen, bc,gend, bc,gengh, bc,genkh, bc,genmh, bc,genth, bc,idealeff, bc,idealeffgh, bc,idealeffkh, bc,idealeffmh, bc,sharereward, bc,sharesperday, bcstats, be, best, bet, bib, bible, bit, bitch, bite, bits, bittwist, blah, blame, blockdiff, blocks, bold, bounty, bugs, bye, byte, bzr, c, calc, candy, capabilities, capability add, capability list, (17 more messages) Jul 03 13:11:56 2016
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sinewav: capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, change, changename, channel, channels, charat, check, cheer, chocolate, chodes, chr, civdesu, civsong, claim, cmd, cnn, cocks, coin, coin3, coin3+, coinflp, col, color, command, commands, concat, config, connect, convert, cookie, coolstory, cpc, cpcbackup, cpu, ctcp, ctgroups, ctime, cut, cyborg, cycle, cyname, d, (16 more messages) Jul 03 13:12:07 2016
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sinewav: d, d, dango, danisanidiot, dart, dart, dartattack, dartscore, dartscore, dccc, dccs, deathnote, debian, decode, default, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, dehalfop, deop, desu, desu2, devoice, dice, die, dieplz, dieplz2, dieplz3, diff, diffchange, ding, disable, disconnect, dn, doctype, dongers, dorkabot, downs, dre, drink, driver, drv, e, echo, eightball, elapsed, enable, encode, eq, eqs, (15 more messages) Jul 03 13:12:13 2016
]more Jul 03 13:12:14 2016
sinewav: equals, equalsstring, es, estimate, everyonewins, ewong, export, f40ph, fack, fail, fake, fakeidol, faustov, fetch, field, fish, fist, flip, flush, fmt, foo, force, format, fu, fuck, fun, fur, g5, ge, genprob, genrate, gentime, get, getstatus, ghost, gishslap, give, go, gooo, grandentrance, greet, gt, gte, gtfo, gtr, guard, guess, guessinit, guessnum, guessnumeq, guessnumgt, guessnuminit, guessnumlt, (14 more messages) Jul 03 13:12:26 2016
]help generate Jul 03 13:12:26 2016
sinewav: Error: There is no command "generate". Jul 03 13:13:41 2016
]help randomize Jul 03 13:13:41 2016
sinewav: Error: There is no command "randomize". Jul 03 13:13:47 2016
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sinewav: h, hakushu, halfop, halfreward, ham, hanyuu, harryy, harryyy, hashrate, hassoon, hayaku, he, headers, hello, help, herro, heto, hextarget, hicks, hoe, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, how, hui, hurryup, hw, i, i'll, iam, iamawesome, iambaka, iamciv, iamcoin, iamconfused, iamcorpse, iamdead, iamdrugs, iamghost, iamgod, iamhider, iaminnocent, iamjanitor, iamjanthranitor, iamkira, (13 more messages) Jul 03 13:13:54 2016
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sinewav: iamnecro, iamnecrodere, iampythonsnake, iamscured, iamtokyo, iamtree, iamtroll, iamtsundere, iamuseless, iamvouched, iamyandere, iamyummy, iamzombie, icalc, icecream, identify, idol, if, if1, ifiwasyou, ignore, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, ihaveahunchits, illya, ilose, inf, info, innerloop, insa, insas, instahashrate, instanthashrate, insult, interval, invite, ircquote, ircstats, is, isawyou, (12 more messages) Jul 03 13:14:01 2016
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sinewav: isgreat, issue, itsalie, ivouch, ivouch$nick, iwin, janthrandom, java, jimp, join, jointheyanderegametoplayandhaveafuntime, junka, junkajustanother, junkaother, junkasomeone, kban, kde2, key, kick, kickban, kickme, kicks, kill, king, knock, kyun, l2alias, l2r, ladlesignup, lag, lagging, lags, lamperi, last, lastseen, latency, later,, lawd, lbargue, le, len, levenshtein, lick, lickban, limit, list, (11 more messages) Jul 03 13:14:05 2016
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sinewav: ljrbot, load, loadvar, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, lock, log, lolly, lolwut, lookatswitch, loop, loopinner, loopinner2, loopinner3, love, lower, ls, lt, lte, lukejr, lynch, m, make, man, marry, mb53, md5, meat, mememe, meo, meow, milk, missed, mizardx, mode, moderate, moikai, monologue, more, motd, motd0, motd1, motdlast, mudkip, music, myip, myrlchan, n, namez, nanobot, naughty, (10 more messages) Jul 03 13:14:10 2016
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]help rand Jul 03 13:14:29 2016
sinewav: (rand
) -- Alias for "echo (random [
]) -- Returns a random quote from
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is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.". Jul 03 13:14:39 2016
]help random Jul 03 13:14:39 2016
sinewav: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. Jul 03 13:14:48 2016
]help random Jul 03 13:14:49 2016
sinewav: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. Jul 03 13:14:59 2016
]help randomteam Jul 03 13:14:59 2016
sinewav: (randomteam
) -- Alias for "fetch [concat http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random_2.php?teams=[urlquote $*]]". Jul 03 13:16:07 2016 * ct|pike (5b9181b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.145.129.181) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 13:42:04 2016 * ct|pike has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) Jul 03 14:30:36 2016
]randometeam 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Jul 03 14:30:36 2016
ct|kyle: Error: "randometeam" is not a valid command. Jul 03 14:54:34 2016 * wrtlprnft (~quassel@46.128.208.100.dynamic.cablesurf.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 15:12:08 2016 * Overrated (~over__@216.252.30.60) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 15:27:32 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 03 15:33:24 2016 * sinewav has quit (Quit: couldn't handle it and left) Jul 03 16:20:15 2016 * G5 has quit () Jul 03 16:26:35 2016 * Nikon_ has quit () Jul 03 16:30:54 2016
!scramble hi how are Jul 03 16:30:54 2016
AmarokNelg: ih Jul 03 16:30:55 2016
weird Jul 03 17:07:05 2016
!scramble hi how are Jul 03 17:07:05 2016
AmarokNelg: r we oah Jul 03 17:07:08 2016
lol Jul 03 17:07:45 2016
!scramble 123456789 Jul 03 17:07:45 2016
AmarokNelg: Jul 03 17:24:55 2016
kyle you mispelled randomteam Jul 03 17:25:00 2016
]randomteam 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Jul 03 17:25:01 2016
AmarokNelg: http://crazy-tronners.com/kyle/random/rand160703172459.txt 4, ~bye~6, 1, 7, 9, ~bye~2, ~bye~3, 10, 2, ~bye~4, ~bye~1, 5, 6, 8, ~bye~5, 3 Jul 03 20:57:47 2016 * sinewav (~Thunderbi@ip68-7-71-95.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 21:06:53 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p54A1FDED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 21:06:54 2016 * Z-Man has quit (Killed (morgan.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 03 21:06:54 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 03 21:38:31 2016 * sinewav has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) Jul 03 21:45:24 2016 * sinewav (~Thunderbi@ip68-7-71-95.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 03 22:42:53 2016 * sinewav has quit (Quit: couldn't handle it and left) Jul 03 23:19:09 2016 * nelg-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) Jul 03 23:26:32 2016
AmarokNelg: I know Jul 03 23:32:18 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 04 00:07:01 2016 * Overrated has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) Jul 04 03:45:50 2016 * sinewav (~Thunderbi@ip68-7-71-95.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 04 03:58:27 2016 * sinewav has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Jul 04 08:25:20 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 04 13:39:57 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 04 13:39:57 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 04 13:39:57 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 04 13:40:08 2016 * nelg-bot (~nelg-bot@unaffiliated/amaroknelg/bot/nelg-bot) has joined #armagetron Jul 04 15:01:56 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200459F928236EBC6DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 04 15:12:38 2016 * sinewav has quit (Quit: couldn't handle it and left) Jul 04 19:31:28 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 04 21:07:54 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p54A1FD22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 04 21:07:55 2016 * Z-Man is now known as Guest14383 Jul 04 21:07:55 2016 * Guest14383 has quit (Killed (tepper.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 04 21:07:55 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 04 22:49:50 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 04 22:59:54 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). Jul 04 23:00:23 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 04 23:00:24 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 04 23:00:24 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 04 23:11:54 2016 * sinewav (~Thunderbi@ip68-7-71-95.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 05 00:27:02 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 05 00:48:19 2016 * sinewav has quit (Quit: couldn't handle it and left) Jul 05 03:01:56 2016 * guru3_ (~guru3@109.200.19.187) has joined #armagetron Jul 05 03:02:56 2016 * guru3 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 05 07:12:32 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 05 17:15:32 2016 * G5 has quit () Jul 05 17:38:05 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 05 21:05:55 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p54A1FEE1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 05 21:05:57 2016 * Z-Man has quit (Killed (rajaniemi.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 05 21:05:57 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 05 22:10:03 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 05 22:23:15 2016 * sinewav (~Thunderbi@ip68-7-71-95.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 05 23:02:30 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 05 23:10:16 2016 * sinewav has quit (Quit: couldn't handle it and left) Jul 06 00:41:03 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). Jul 06 00:41:41 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 06 00:41:41 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 06 00:41:41 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 06 00:42:30 2016 * AmarokNelg2 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) Jul 06 07:18:59 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 06 13:27:48 2016 * AmarokNelg2 is now known as AmarokNelg Jul 06 13:42:26 2016 * nelg-bot (~nelg-bot@unaffiliated/amaroknelg/bot/nelg-bot) has joined #armagetron Jul 06 13:45:46 2016 * theocrite_ (~Jean-Mari@2a03:7220:8080:f800::1) has joined #armagetron Jul 06 14:21:27 2016 * G5 (~g5@p4FF8E778.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 06 15:05:33 2016 * Lucifer_arma has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 06 15:20:14 2016
New news from bzr: [0.4-armagetronad-work] r1592 Adapting recording links to go to current user's desktop, no... Jul 06 17:10:30 2016 * G5 has quit () Jul 06 18:06:07 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 06 18:16:51 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 06 19:56:38 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 06 20:02:56 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 06 20:09:48 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 06 20:25:18 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 06 21:04:54 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p54A1FC0F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 06 21:04:54 2016 * Z-Man is now known as Guest91472 Jul 06 21:04:54 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 06 21:08:28 2016 * Guest91472 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Jul 06 21:51:23 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). 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]later tell sinewav hey dude, got any free hardware? ;) I'm looking for an ethernet card.... Jul 09 15:58:32 2016
Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded. Jul 09 15:58:47 2016
does anybody get their "later tell" messages? Jul 09 16:14:35 2016 * sinewav (~Thunderbi@ip68-7-71-95.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 09 16:53:45 2016
sinewav: ping Jul 09 16:54:19 2016
sinewav: nvm, just read your post on the forums :) Jul 09 17:10:29 2016
That reminds me, I need to email a reminder to my work account so I don't forget. Jul 09 17:14:12 2016 * sinewav has quit (Quit: couldn't handle it and left) Jul 09 17:20:18 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 09 17:50:43 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200D820FFA2B091563C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 09 19:30:09 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 09 20:02:26 2016 * nelg-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) Jul 09 20:26:25 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 09 21:03:52 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p4FC16277.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 09 21:03:53 2016 * Z-Man has quit (Killed (morgan.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 09 21:03:53 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 09 21:28:33 2016 * G5_ (~g5@p4FF8E778.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 09 21:29:58 2016 * G5 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Jul 10 00:59:11 2016 * Z-Man has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:12 2016 * dlh has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:12 2016 * luke-jr has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:22 2016 * dom96 has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:24 2016 * noob13 has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:24 2016 * theocrite_ has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:25 2016 * Long_Shoota has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:25 2016 * ljrbot has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:26 2016 * \u03b5 has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:27 2016 * P4 has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:31 2016 * guru3_ has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:32 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:32 2016 * Lucifer_arma has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:33 2016 * MrBougo has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:36 2016 * wrtlprnft has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:36 2016 * G5_ has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:38 2016 * ihptru has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:40 2016 * tronner has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:42 2016 * danar_ has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:44 2016 * peatcoal has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 00:59:45 2016 * theocrite has quit (*.net *.split) Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * theocrite (~Jean-Mari@creteil-equinoxe.fr) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * peatcoal (~Peat@eat.a.bowl.of.crunchy.peatcoal.co.uk) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * P4 (~P4@unaffiliated/p4) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * \u03b5 (~epsy@unaffiliated/epsy) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * tronner (~tronner@unaffiliated/p4/bot/tronner) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * danar_ (~danar@botters/staff/adran) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * MrBougo (~MrBougo@xonotic/contributor/MrBougo) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * ljrbot (~supybot-l@2001:470:88ff:2e::1) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * dom96 (~dom96@unaffiliated/dom96) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * ihptru (~ihptru@2a03:b0c0:3:d0::a95:f001) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * Long_Shoota (~LS@cpc76140-clif11-2-0-cust43.12-4.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * wrtlprnft (~quassel@46.128.208.100.dynamic.cablesurf.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * guru3_ (~guru3@109.200.19.187) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * theocrite_ (~Jean-Mari@2a03:7220:8080:f800::1) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * noob13 (~ip@v220100454403061.yourvserver.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * Lucifer_arma (~Lucifer_a@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:28 2016 * G5_ (~g5@p4FF8E778.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:31 2016 * Z-Man (~Z-Man@p4FC16277.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:31 2016 * dlh (~dlh@unaffiliated/dlh) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 04:54:31 2016 * luke-jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 07:55:48 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 10:47:16 2016 * Jip (59f714d9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.247.20.217) has joined #armagetron Jul 10 10:47:19 2016
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Z-Man: random question: How easy would it be to factor out all of arma's network-specific code and generalize it for "any" game to use? Jul 11 01:41:43 2016
I'm curious because my son wants to write one of those really nerdy bridge simulators, since we're having trouble getting any of them to work (except quintet, which seems to be focused on combat) Jul 11 01:42:30 2016
and every time I look at network libraries, particularly in python where there are so few, they don't handle the basics that I don't want to deal with, like joining a server/authentication, pinging clients, etc. Jul 11 01:42:38 2016
You know, all the bookkeeping. Jul 11 01:43:20 2016
I doubt that arma's would be easy to generalize, I'm just curious how hard it would actually be. Sort of a way to get an idea how hard it'll be to write from scratch all that stuff. Jul 11 01:43:44 2016
and also more than a little annoyed that there's no existing library that handles that (don't get me started with Twisted, either) Jul 11 01:52:35 2016
Also, a more specific question, when you receive a datagram, how do you figure out which protocol buffer class to use to unserialize it? Is there a helper class for that, or did you have to write your own code for it? Jul 11 01:52:55 2016 * Lucifer_arma considers looking at the source, heh. Jul 11 07:15:23 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 11 10:43:19 2016 * dlh has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) Jul 11 10:45:03 2016 * dlh (~dlh@unaffiliated/dlh) has joined #armagetron Jul 11 12:01:57 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA2006CF2A7F0B0C1CDBA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 11 15:59:34 2016 * Long_Shoota has quit (Quit: One tough cookie since '05) Jul 11 16:19:56 2016
New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1463 Cleaning up fix so the current code looks better. || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1462 Applying minimal fix attempt to GCC 6 compilation. Disabling... Jul 11 16:21:43 2016
Z-Man: ok, now I'm really stumped, heh. Looking for where you decode net messages, and not finding it. Jul 11 16:22:22 2016
I found someone saying to encapsulate all messages as members of a gigantic class and that'll make protobuf do all the sorting/parsing and stuff for me Jul 11 16:23:11 2016
on the other hand, I can go through all the work needed to create a lookup table and just make the first 2 bytes of every message a unique id for the message type, which is what I did when I was parsing by hand Jul 11 16:26:50 2016 * nelg-bot (~nelg-bot@unaffiliated/amaroknelg/bot/nelg-bot) has joined #armagetron Jul 11 17:03:52 2016
Lucifer_arma: as dar as i remember, you instantiate a global object for each kind of message. That object's constructor takes a message ID and a callback and registers this information in some global array Jul 11 17:05:50 2016
So there's no central place in the code where all the mesdage IDs and handlers are listed, but the IDs are still assigned manually (I guess the game will complain if you try to register the same ID multiple times) Jul 11 17:06:28 2016
But all this information is from before the protobuf migration, not sure how that changed things Jul 11 17:09:14 2016 * Long_Shoota (~LS@cpc76140-clif11-2-0-cust43.12-4.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 11 17:11:28 2016 * G5 has quit () Jul 11 17:37:03 2016
wrtlprnft: the protobuf migration shouldn't change things at all, especially since the protobuf migration is backwards-compatible for the most part, without just switching to the old code (i.e. the older protocols are still encoded/decoded with protobuf) Jul 11 17:37:47 2016
so you're basically talking about a lookup table, where I'd register all the IDs for each message type, and when I receive a message, I have to manually unpack the first couple of bytes or so to find out what message type it is Jul 11 17:38:02 2016
then get a protobuf object and have it do the decoding Jul 11 17:38:52 2016
I mean, get the correct protobuf object and have it do the decoding Jul 11 17:40:25 2016
In case you're curious, I'm working on a python game network library that'll handle all the bookkeeping involved in keeping clients connected. Essentially, what I was complaining about nobody having done yet. Jul 11 17:40:53 2016
I've got a game my son wants to work on when this library is functional enough, but there's very little he can do until then Jul 11 21:02:23 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p54A1FD02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 11 21:02:23 2016 * Z-Man is now known as Guest91605 Jul 11 21:02:23 2016 * Guest91605 has quit (Killed (morgan.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 11 21:02:24 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 11 21:40:43 2016 * luke-jr has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 11 22:00:24 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p4FC16BEE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 11 22:00:24 2016 * Z-Man has quit (Killed (sinisalo.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 11 22:00:24 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 11 22:37:37 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 12 00:16:25 2016 * luke-jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) has joined #armagetron Jul 12 00:54:58 2016
You could probably think of it as a protobuf factory if you like those terms :-D Jul 12 01:14:02 2016 * danar_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 12 01:20:13 2016 * danar (danar@botters/staff/adran) has joined #armagetron Jul 12 01:30:43 2016
wrtlprnft: that's what I ended up making, and no, I don't like those terms, heh. Jul 12 01:31:14 2016
I made a lookup that looks up by id and returns a type, and a lookup by string that then looks for the id so it can find and return the type Jul 12 01:32:21 2016
the harder part was figuring out that I had to prepend the type ID to the serialized stream, so I didn't escape using struct. But it was trivial to see how big the message received is, subtract the size of the id, and then create a struct format string to extract the id and leave the payload untouched so that googe buffers can unserialize it Jul 12 04:30:37 2016 * nelg-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Jul 12 14:52:12 2016
hey, you could open a socket and assign a port for each message type :-D Jul 12 14:53:10 2016
and sorry, I'm apparently bad at answering to messages in a reasonable timespan :-D Jul 12 15:01:34 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 15:01:34 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 15:02:03 2016 Jul 12 15:02:03 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 12 15:02:03 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 12 15:02:03 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 12 15:03:48 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 15:03:48 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 15:04:23 2016 Jul 12 15:04:23 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 12 15:04:23 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 12 15:04:23 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 12 15:04:34 2016 * AmarokNelg has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) Jul 12 15:07:09 2016 * AmarokNelg2 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) Jul 12 16:20:01 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200ECA8AE2E9F1247EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 12 16:55:13 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 16:55:13 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 16:55:42 2016 Jul 12 16:55:42 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 12 16:55:42 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 12 16:55:42 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 12 16:56:14 2016
well, it's just a game library, so how dangerous can it be even if the connection is hijacked? I'm not planning on trying to support in-game purchasing protocols or anything Jul 12 16:56:46 2016
Just a general-purpose udp-based network library for games Jul 12 16:57:14 2016
python, of course. Which reminds me, I need to check to see if google protocol buffers in python is pure python, or if they use a c library under the hood Jul 12 16:58:25 2016
just saying that I don't see a point in using a simple salt in this application Jul 12 16:59:43 2016
so there's nothing other than pings that I need to do to maintain connections? I've set four different levels of connection status based on when the last pings were acked Jul 12 17:00:17 2016
should I consider packet loss while determining a connection's status? Like, they could have responded to a ping within the last 5 seconds, but only responded to one of five, so as it stands now, they'd be C_OK. Jul 12 17:01:07 2016
Maybe I should mark them C_SORTOFOK Jul 12 17:06:05 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 17:06:05 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 17:06:38 2016 Jul 12 17:06:38 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 12 17:06:38 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 12 17:06:38 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 12 17:06:52 2016
arma has a very mature network layer ;) Jul 12 17:07:07 2016
including a partial PHP implementation, of all things Jul 12 17:07:07 2016
if I could run a script and have it turned magically into a python-only game network library, I'd have done that already Jul 12 17:07:55 2016
well, there's no harm sticking a timestamp on queued messages now, even if I don't use them immediately Jul 12 17:08:43 2016
erm, why didn't I think to include a timestamp in the message? Now I'm just slipping. Jul 12 17:08:47 2016
for what I'm suggesting, the timestamp wouldn't even be necessary, the order in the queue would suffice Jul 12 17:09:36 2016
timestamps are kind of useful if you're not even guaranteed that messages will arrive in the same order as you sent them Jul 12 17:10:01 2016
for where I'm going, I think the timestamp will be necessary ultimately. I'm wanting to make a base class for game objects that need to be synced and have the network library handle it automatically. Jul 12 17:10:25 2016
So the developer using the library just has to follow some basic conventions, but otherwise not even think about how the network works. That can be a black box as far as the game developer is concerned. Jul 12 17:10:41 2016
using UDP, no guarantees the packets will arrive, let alone what order they'll be received in Jul 12 17:10:58 2016
also, absolutely no intentions of supporting TCP Jul 12 17:11:40 2016
instead of having a queue of already-encoded messages, why not have a queue of the objects/property changes that need to be updated? Jul 12 17:12:06 2016
then, when you finally get around to send the message, you can use the most recent state instead of some potentially ancient value Jul 12 17:12:08 2016
that's the queue, the serializing happens right before sending. Jul 12 17:12:13 2016
ah, i see Jul 12 17:12:20 2016
wait, I see what you're saying Jul 12 17:13:06 2016
current plan is to have a property change message type that sends small changes, like when only one or two properties change for an object, with regular full object syncs Jul 12 17:13:19 2016
but the receiver will still want timestamps so it can make sure not to update to an older state than what it already received Jul 12 17:13:26 2016
those regular full object syncs should be the current object instead of, as you say, some potentially ancient value Jul 12 17:13:52 2016
right, the receive will need to track last time synced as well as last time updated and discard older values Jul 12 17:14:23 2016
do you plan on sending ACKs? Jul 12 17:14:41 2016
for every packet. Z-man told me some years back that arma ACKS every packet, so I figure I may as well do that too Jul 12 17:14:50 2016
not multiple acks, just one per packet. Jul 12 17:15:03 2016
then you shouldn't ever need full-object syncs Jul 12 17:15:03 2016
both sides can use acks to track packet loss, since they expect packets to be acked. Jul 12 17:15:37 2016
except on connection or object creation, of course Jul 12 17:15:40 2016
what if both the update and the ack packets are lost? Jul 12 17:16:04 2016
huh? Jul 12 17:16:14 2016
if the update packet is lost, how can the ack ever be sent? Jul 12 17:16:20 2016
consider what the information could be. In a RPG, the update packet could be "You got hit for 100 hit points". Jul 12 17:16:22 2016
ah, good point Jul 12 17:16:37 2016
and the server, if it doesn't receive acks for updates, can resend the update Jul 12 17:16:49 2016
using fresh data, not just resending the unreceived packet Jul 12 17:17:05 2016
that's what arma does, as far as I know Jul 12 17:17:37 2016
the acks are just for the case that the value stops changing after the final lost update, Jul 12 17:17:38 2016
arma sends periodic syncs of some sort, which is why when you're ultra-lagged, you get huge jumps Jul 12 17:18:01 2016
aren't these just a result of excessive missing acks? Jul 12 17:18:42 2016
dunno. At a certain point, the two ways of responding to missing acks, when they're excessively missing, amount to the same thing: a full/mostly full object update. Jul 12 17:19:04 2016
yes, of course Jul 12 17:19:35 2016
but if you already know that the client has all the values, sending full syncs sounds like artificial lag to me Jul 12 17:20:01 2016
checksums then Jul 12 17:20:07 2016
faster than hashes, less reliable Jul 12 17:20:28 2016
the client could do periodic checksums of objects and send that to the server. Server does the same thing. If they don't match, send a full sync. Jul 12 17:20:48 2016
more robustness in exchange for a few bytes of extra bandwidth Jul 12 17:20:55 2016
i guess you don't trust your protocol ;-) Jul 12 17:20:59 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 12 17:21:16 2016
I don't trust connected clients. :) Jul 12 17:21:49 2016
Also, my protocol right now only allows logins, and the login isn't acked yet. That's where I'm at. :) Jul 12 17:22:46 2016
but, you know, trying to figure out where it's going helps to figure out where to put the message-sending and how to organize the various queues involved. Jul 12 17:29:09 2016
Lucifer: Trying to answer things in order, it would not be terribly difficult to steal arma's protocol. Yank out the tools and network directories and you're done. It would not be a terribly good idea, though. It's got lots of baggage with backwards compatibility, for starters, and the code and design quality is on par with the rest of the game :) Jul 12 17:29:36 2016
nDescriptor is the class that manages which datagram is interpreted as which protobuf message class. Jul 12 17:30:22 2016
(I'll phase out again now, just installed quasselclient on my wife's laptop) Jul 12 17:51:24 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200ECA8AE2E9F1247EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 12 19:48:03 2016 * Long_Shoota has quit (Quit: One tough cookie since '05) Jul 12 19:53:39 2016 * Long_Shoota (~LS@cpc76140-clif11-2-0-cust43.12-4.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 12 20:27:27 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 12 20:40:54 2016 * luke-jr has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) Jul 12 21:07:33 2016 * Disconnected (Network is unreachable). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 21:07:33 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 12 22:16:26 2016 Jul 12 22:16:26 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 12 22:16:26 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 12 22:16:26 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 12 22:52:17 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 12 23:15:47 2016 * nelg-bot (~nelg-bot@unaffiliated/amaroknelg/bot/nelg-bot) has joined #armagetron Jul 12 23:23:49 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 12 23:23:55 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200ECA8AE2E9F1247EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 13 01:44:09 2016 * G5 has quit () Jul 13 02:56:39 2016 * Lucifer_arma has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 13 03:00:43 2016 * Lucifer_arma (~Lucifer_a@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #armagetron Jul 13 07:17:21 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 13 10:47:34 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 10:47:34 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 10:48:09 2016 Jul 13 10:48:09 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 13 10:48:09 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 13 10:48:09 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 13 12:23:32 2016 * Guest57901823 (~LS@cpc76140-clif11-2-0-cust43.12-4.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 13 12:25:19 2016 * Long_Shoota has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) Jul 13 15:13:57 2016
Lucifer_arma: Oh, there was nothing else for me to comment on. wrtlprnft said all the rest already. Jul 13 16:11:07 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A83787A46F04A300.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 13 17:01:18 2016
Also, my memory is really, really bad :( With the tablet at least temporarily borked, we brought the wife's netbook here to my mother in law. She's got wifi, so everything should be all right. Jul 13 17:01:50 2016
Except that to my surprise, the netbook did not want to talk to the wifi at all, it was invisible. Probably on some channel it can't see. Jul 13 17:02:13 2016
Then I remembered that the same thing happened last year and that I should have known about it. Jul 13 17:02:37 2016
Then I pondered the option to connect the netbook with an ethernet cable. Jul 13 17:02:55 2016
THEN I remembered that's what I did last year already. Jul 13 17:03:45 2016
Then I tried to remember what I did with the cable, concluding I must have taken it home and it's now the cable connecting the raspi to our net. Jul 13 17:04:00 2016
Z-Man: who's z-girl? :P Jul 13 17:04:26 2016
And only after a day or two, I noticed the cable sticking out of the router, with no device it could possibly go to. Jul 13 17:04:39 2016
It was all tidied up and went nowhere. Jul 13 17:04:54 2016
It was the cable I bought last year. Jul 13 17:05:48 2016
ct|kyle: Z-Girl would be my daughter. Well, how I call her here, anyway. Haven't given anyone her real name here. Jul 13 17:06:22 2016
Z-Man: just wanted to check your memory :) Jul 13 17:06:30 2016
Her full name is so long she'd be completely identifyable, and if I only give her first two names and you google them, you land at a porn site. Jul 13 17:06:42 2016
Ah, thanks! Jul 13 17:06:46 2016
Did it pass? Jul 13 17:06:51 2016
yes Jul 13 17:06:55 2016
woo! Jul 13 17:08:02 2016
isent z-girl a little young to have a porn site? Jul 13 17:08:33 2016
IT'S NOT HERS! Jul 13 17:08:47 2016
Though from the casual glance, it's quite a classy porn site. Jul 13 17:16:43 2016 * G5 has quit () Jul 13 18:28:43 2016
I've honestly never googled my kids' names looking for porn sites ;) Jul 13 20:02:47 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 20:02:47 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 20:03:21 2016 Jul 13 20:03:21 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 13 20:03:21 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 13 20:03:21 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 13 20:12:04 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 20:12:04 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 01:38:51 2016 Jul 14 01:38:51 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 14 01:38:51 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 14 01:38:51 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 14 01:43:37 2016 * Lucifer_arma (~Lucifer_a@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #armagetron Jul 14 08:03:58 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 08:03:58 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 08:04:31 2016 Jul 14 08:04:31 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 14 08:04:31 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 14 08:04:31 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 14 08:05:24 2016 * AmarokNelg has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) Jul 14 10:49:08 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 10:49:08 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 10:49:41 2016 Jul 14 10:49:41 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 14 10:49:41 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 14 10:49:41 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 14 10:50:37 2016 * AmarokNelg2 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) Jul 14 11:39:40 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A0DDE096AD9FD144.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 14 17:57:48 2016 * G5 has quit () Jul 14 18:06:28 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 18:06:28 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 18:08:06 2016 Jul 14 18:08:06 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 14 18:08:06 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 14 18:08:06 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 14 18:08:57 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 18:08:57 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 18:09:29 2016 Jul 14 18:09:29 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 14 18:09:29 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 14 18:09:29 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 14 18:12:31 2016 * AmarokNelg has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) Jul 14 18:34:57 2016 * ljrbot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Jul 14 18:36:57 2016 * ljrbot (~supybot-l@2001:470:88ff:2e::1) has joined #armagetron Jul 14 18:44:54 2016 * MrBougo_ (~MrBougo@xonotic/contributor/MrBougo) has joined #armagetron Jul 14 18:47:51 2016 * MrBougo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 14 20:20:51 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 20:20:51 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 20:21:26 2016 Jul 14 20:21:26 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 14 20:21:26 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 14 20:21:26 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 14 20:30:35 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 14 20:32:56 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 14 20:36:14 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 14 20:51:20 2016
well, it looks like to set up my xbox360 controllers to work as joysticks in all of the emulators, I'm going to have to map its buttons to keys and give the same keybinds to each emulator :/ Jul 14 20:52:22 2016
I'll have to configure native games to work the same way. Grrrr. Jul 14 20:52:48 2016
I should probably build arma and test it with the xpad kernel module before I do all that Jul 14 20:53:23 2016
of course, if I use the same keybinds that mythtv uses, then I'll be able to control mythtv with a controller..... Jul 14 21:58:25 2016 * Z-Man is now known as Guest17850 Jul 14 21:58:25 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p4FC16D82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 14 21:58:25 2016 * Guest17850 has quit (Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 14 21:58:25 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 14 22:55:29 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 15 01:01:54 2016 * luke-jr has quit (Excess Flood) Jul 15 01:02:14 2016 * luke-jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) has joined #armagetron Jul 15 01:32:03 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 01:32:03 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 01:32:33 2016 Jul 15 01:32:33 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 15 01:32:33 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 15 01:32:33 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 15 12:04:54 2016 * Disconnected (Connection timed out). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 12:04:55 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 12:53:02 2016 Jul 15 12:53:02 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 15 12:53:02 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 15 12:53:02 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 15 15:25:23 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 15:25:23 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 15:25:55 2016 Jul 15 15:25:55 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 15 15:25:55 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 15 15:25:55 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 15 15:27:05 2016 * Lucifer_arma (~Lucifer_a@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #armagetron Jul 15 15:29:28 2016 * AmarokNelg has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) Jul 15 16:19:42 2016 * ct|kyle (~kyle@184.18.134.169) has joined #armagetron Jul 15 17:47:58 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 15 18:44:07 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 15 19:41:10 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 15 20:35:24 2016
woohoo! I can read again! Jul 15 21:56:23 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p5B34E64A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 15 21:56:23 2016 * Z-Man is now known as Guest2195 Jul 15 21:56:23 2016 * Guest2195 has quit (Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 15 21:56:23 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 16 00:05:46 2016 * ct|kyle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 16 01:29:20 2016
New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1463 Cleaning up fix so the current code looks better. || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1462 Applying minimal fix attempt to GCC 6 compilation. Disabling... || [0.4-armagetronad-work] r1592 Adapting recording links to go to current user's desktop, no... Jul 16 01:40:06 2016 * G5 has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) Jul 16 01:42:14 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 03:57:08 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 16 03:57:15 2016 * G5 (~g5@p4FF8E778.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 11:31:43 2016
New news from bzr: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1463 Cleaning up fix so the current code looks better. || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1462 Applying minimal fix attempt to GCC 6 compilation. Disabling... || [0.4-armagetronad-work] r1592 Adapting recording links to go to current user's desktop, no... Jul 16 13:35:18 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 16 13:37:20 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 16:33:31 2016 * MrBougo_ is now known as MrBougo Jul 16 18:17:35 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 16 18:17:41 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 18:18:15 2016 * Monkey__ (~Monkey@cpc30-hudd10-2-0-cust366.4-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 19:11:48 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 16 19:56:21 2016 * Lucifer_arma has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) Jul 16 19:57:34 2016 * Lucifer_arma (~Lucifer_a@cpe-66-68-59-243.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 20:11:10 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 20:11:19 2016 * Monkey__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 16 20:46:24 2016 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 16 20:46:24 2016 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 16 20:46:55 2016 Jul 16 20:46:55 2016 * Now talking on #armagetron Jul 16 20:46:56 2016 * Topic for #armagetron is: http://www.armagetronad.org/ | pastebin: http://armagetron.pastebin.com/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys | Pickup a game: #armagetron.pickup Jul 16 20:46:56 2016 * Topic for #armagetron set by guru3 at Wed Apr 22 16:50:50 2015 Jul 16 21:19:58 2016 * G5 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Jul 16 21:54:23 2016 * zmanuel (~Z-Man@p5B34EBD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 21:54:24 2016 * Z-Man has quit (Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) Jul 16 21:54:24 2016 * zmanuel is now known as Z-Man Jul 16 22:17:12 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 16 23:19:02 2016 * G5 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Jul 17 00:15:18 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 17 04:34:22 2016 * G5 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 17 04:34:29 2016 * G5 (~g5@p2003006A6A7BA200A14AEA9EEB661508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #armagetron Jul 17 08:52:03 2016 * Titanoboa (53fa7a17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.250.122.23) has joined #armagetron Jul 17 08:52:24 2016
theocrite: u there? Jul 17 08:52:28 2016
theocrite_: u there? Jul 17 08:52:58 2016
peatcoal: is theo alive? Jul 17 08:53:48 2016
dear community, forgive me for what's about to happen, but I gotta know and I can't stay for too long...... so here we go Jul 17 08:53:59 2016
AmarokNelg2: you there? Jul 17 08:54:02 2016
danar: you there? Jul 17 08:54:06 2016
dlh: you there? Jul 17 08:54:23 2016
dom96: you there? Jul 17 08:54:33 2016
G5: hi. is you there? Jul 17 08:54:43 2016
Guest57901823: hi Jul 17 08:55:03 2016 * Titanoboa has quit (Changing host) Jul 17 08:55:03 2016 * Titanoboa (53fa7a17@unaffiliated/titanoboa) has joined #armagetron Jul 17 08:55:03 2016 * Titanoboa has quit (Changing host) Jul 17 08:55:03 2016 * Titanoboa (53fa7a17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.250.122.23) has joined #armagetron Jul 17 08:55:17 2016
guru3_: are you there? Jul 17 08:55:23 2016
ihptru: are you here? Jul 17 08:55:32 2016
ljrbot: ping Jul 17 08:55:32 2016
pong Jul 17 08:55:33 2016
Titanoboa: sup? Jul 17 08:55:38 2016
dom96: hi! :) Jul 17 08:55:46 2016
I wanna know that theocrite is alive and well Jul 17 08:55:59 2016
has he been active in the last 2 days? Jul 17 08:56:20 2016
ljrbot: last from theocrite Jul 17 08:56:21 2016
Titanoboa: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp}
] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message) Jul 17 08:56:22 2016
Not as far as I can see, although I don't really pay much attention to this channel I'm afraid. Jul 17 08:56:49 2016
uh, how do I use "last from"? Jul 17 08:56:50 2016
ljrbot: last from "theocrite" Jul 17 08:56:51 2016
Titanoboa: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp}
] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message) Jul 17 08:56:55 2016
ljrbot: last --from "theocrite" Jul 17 08:56:55 2016
Titanoboa: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. Jul 17 08:56:58 2016
ljrbot: last --from theocrite Jul 17 08:56:59 2016
Titanoboa: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. Jul 17 08:57:28 2016
Lucifer_arma: you here? Jul 17 08:57:35 2016
luke-jr: same question Jul 17 08:57:41 2016
MrBougo: you? Jul 17 08:57:55 2016
dom96: thanks for trying to help :) Jul 17 08:58:04 2016
noob13: ohai Jul 17 08:58:07 2016
P4: hi Jul 17 08:58:11 2016
np Jul 17 08:58:11 2016
peatcoal: hola Jul 17 08:58:21 2016
theocrite: hihihi? Jul 17 08:58:25 2016
tronner: ping Jul 17 08:58:35 2016
wrtlprnft: are you here? Jul 17 08:58:40 2016